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Jan 31, 2011 187

Gallagher is the first guest to ever walk out on Marc in the middle of an interview. You'll hear how it got to that point as the famed watermelon-smasher defends his original brand of comedy (said watermelon-smashing) and his recent strain of on-stage bon mots (which have come under fire for racist and homophobic undertones). This episode is sponsored by AdamandEve.com - click here for the special Valentine's Day WTF offer.

187 Comments
  • over three months ago
    Duck Hunt Jr.
    1) This interview symbolically demonstrates the difference between a clown and a comedian.

    2) Imagine a talk show hosted by Gallagher.

    Part one: Gallagher does a monologue of bad jokes (standard for a talk show monologue), but he throws in a few barbs at whichever immigrant culture/class Americans like to pick on in that particular decade. Simply put, classic comedic material.

    Part two: Gallagher interviews a guest. He asks a very long winded question that in some way makes reference to himself. The guest starts to answer, but within one sentence Gallagher interrupts and answers the question for the guest with a long winded story from Gallgher's past experiences that he somehow ties to the guest's claim to fame, or semi-fame. Often the stories are bitterly recounted tales of other entertainers who garnered more respect than Gallagher. This cycle repeats itself for all the interviews.

    Part three: An up-and-coming comedian does a routine. Gallagher invites him to the desk for an interview then proceeds to pick apart his routine and tells him that he should use more of Gallagher's sure-fire techniques if he really wants to relate to an audience.

    Part four: Musical guest, usually Seals and Crofts because they look like Gallagher. Sometimes the musical guest is just Gallagher singing double-entendres about pussy to compensate for suspicions he is a somewhat effeminate.

    Part four: Gallagher smashes a watermelon.
  • over three months ago
    Duck Hunt
    Has anyone ever accidentally swallowed chewing tobacco?
  • over five months ago
    Joel Rosenbaum
    An underappreciated fact about the First Amendment is that it includes impunity to criticism along with the other rights that it guarantees.
  • almost eight months ago
    Stinky
    This interview is like if you got in a shouting match with your grandfather for making casual racist/homophobic remarks over thanksgiving dinner. I guess I see why Mark felt he had to do it but it just came out os uncomfortable.
  • over eight months ago
    Patrick
    Gallagher asks, "Why don't I have the Tonight Show?"

    Perhaps it's because his act is to repeat jokes he heard "on the street".
  • over a year ago
    Mitch
    While Marc was a bit hard on Gallagher, it's really all about Gallagher's loud and general dickishness which makes it impossible to have a regular conversation. With all of his guests Marc tries to explore ideas and probe deeper into what makes them tick, and Gallagher clearly couldn't handle it that Marc wouldn't just accept his dumb superficial answers. I feel sorry for Gallagher though, he's clearly missing a few screws.
  • a year and a half ago
    diego voglino
    maron came off as hypocritical and self righteous fuck!
    who made him the pc joke arbiter?
    he's had countless other guests who have racially charged
    material. i've never heard him take any of them to task.
    isn't it all about how you frame things (lisa lampanelli)?
    singling out gallagher is some fucking weak sauce!
  • a year and a half ago
    sambson
    OKAY! After listening to the WTF? Marc Maron podcast where Gallagher walks out, I learned a few things. The dude IS wacky but he doesn't honestly seem angry at any group of people (gay, Arab, etc). He feels like people are focusing on 5 jokes out of 200, and THAT is what really pisses him off. So NOW, he delivers those jokes with venom because of the critique of HIM. What Maron was able to ferret out was that Gallagher is a dinosaur. His comedy is stuck far back in the past and now he's part of the 'good ole boys' club. The real problem is that Gallagher thinks his antiquated style of telling street jokes while smashing fruit; is the ONLY kind of comedy. To him everyone else is an idiot. He's been on the road for 30 years and never got the 1990s sensitivity training class that comedians were supposed to jump over that societal line with the rest of us. He won't add some irony or show us what a fuck up he is; because he thinks the person on stage is the king of the moment and any flaw is weakness. As intelligent as he is, has no comprehension of that fact, and won't deviate from his brutal form of comedy for something more modern. It's all bash and smash for an aging Gallagher who now thinks of any critique of his act as a point of honor. I'm sure he will never change - and I just feel sorry for the old angry guy who's scared to change or admit he might be wrong.
  • a year and a half ago
    Sky Clad Guru
    Gallagher appears to approach every subject with the finesse of a surgeon coming to the table with a giant wooden sledgehammer. Mark approaches subjects like a surgeon with a scalpel, interested in dissecting subjects. The problem is that a guy wielding a giant wooden sledgehammer and a guy wielding a scalpel aren't going to do anything good together for the subject at hand; in this case comedy.
  • a year and a half ago
    Interview fox news style
    Not that my comments really matter with 177 already on here, but:
    1. Gallagher had a really combative/argumentative style of interviewing right from the beginning - I was getting annoyed with him in the first ten minutes.
    2. Marc really got on a soap box for this one. The first amendment lets people say whatever they want on stage. If it has racism or bigotry in it don't buy tickets to his show and he'll reap what he has sown. He said so himself that nobody is calling him offering TV shows - if he was as smart as he thinks he is he would know why.
  • almost two years ago
    not that it matters
    gallagher disgusts me for a great many reasons, least of all his horrible comedy but doesn't he have a right to be a horrible comedian and say whatever he wants? at 41 minutes marc goes into his "what if peoples feelings are hurt? what if it's isolating when you say they are all this or that!?" isn't that what marc does every time he bashes all conservatives and all libertarians? he even says in the interview with disgust "oh you are probably a libertarian" like he's calling gallagher a child molestor. i'm a libertarian and i'm pro-choice/pro-gay marriage/pro-freedom in all it's forms. i don't know. i love you marc, keep up the good work. you are hilarious and get me through some pretty boring nights at work :D
  • almost two years ago
    Sorta Totally
    Gallagher said it was okay to tell minority jokes
    a)If he didn't write them
    b)If it was in the middle of the country where the audience are bigots anyway

    Two problems with this:
    a)Those people that look up to Gallagher enough to buy his tix are reinforced by a celebrity telling them it's okay to laugh at gays for being born gay. The behavior then continues.
    b)If I hear a joke that starts "what do you call 100 niggers at the bottom of the lake..." it's NOT okay to repeat the joke onstage JUST BECAUSE I DIDN'T WRITE IT. Shit, man, it's just puerile.

    Gallagher just ducked and avoided a simple question by using the tactic of asking a return question. People that are obviously of mediocre intelligence but refer to themselves as geniuses are bizarre ("you think it's lightning!" Uh. no, Gallagher, I don't, actually)

    Marc thought he could keep asking the question instead of changing interview tactics.
  • over two years ago
    Dorchester Guy
    WTF? Has anyone seen the new Geico commercial with Gallagher in it? Let me get this straight, they fired Gilbert Gottfried for making insensitive jokes about the tsunami in Japan but hired Gallagher for a new spot. HUH?
  • over two years ago
    Rob
    Gallagher's nonsensical statements about photons and electrons proved to me that he isn't half as smart as he thinks he is. First he's saying that only electrons are dangerous, then he's saying that cellphones are dangerous because they emit high energy photons, then he's saying that X-ray backscatter scanners are OK (even though X-rays are higher energy than cell phone radiation). The first question he asked Marc was also very poorly posed. Electrons are indeed banging around your skull when you talk on any phone because your brain is working (though Gallagher's answer also works).
  • two and a half years ago
    Sam Vincent
    Yet another person here that is not a Gallagher fan, and despises the right wing politics. But Marc was definitely being more of a bully than usual. Gallagher actually did change my mind that his jokes (while offensive) in relation to other comics are barely eyebrow raising. If not at the beginning of the interview, at some point Marc felt the need to just give it to him, despite the fact that plenty his guests have more sexist, racist, and homophobic jokes in their acts. Ideally Gallagher should not be making those jokes, but the same goes for everyone else.
  • two and a half years ago
    Reverend Flash
    @Corey Koehler:
    Eddie Murphy WAS hammered on for his gay jokes, and he has since expressed regret over them. Dice Clay was telling jokes in character as an obvious misogynist/homophobe (a la Archie Bunker) meant to be laughed AT. Gallagher, on the other hand, was speaking from his cold, hateful heart. You're one of those people has a hard time 'getting' humor, aren't you?
  • two and a half years ago
    tired of mindless people who just go by
    Most of you people are complete idiots. All I have to do is post this video to show how ignorant most of you are. "He used to be so blah blah but now he's racist" He hasn't changed, America has! want proof?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXd-AZrRmyg
    50 seconds in. So, tell me how he has changed so much?
    There is nothing wrong with his jokes unless there is something wrong with all the other comedians who tell racy jokes. He is an easy target now because he has become sensitive and disconnected/eccentric. He was always smart about his observations. He had hacky comedy AND he had high brow comedy. People should quit being assholes and try to be fair and see things accurately.
  • two and a half years ago
    David
    Marc was extremely pushy in this podcast and then Gallagher walked off. Then Marc was surprised. I don't like Gallagher, but this was the most aggressive politically driven comedy podcast ever.
    I can't think of a more uncomfortable subject to discuss.
  • two and a half years ago
    JOnn
    To be fair, Galagher has become something quite different since he started comedy. All the racist, homophobic and generally insensitive jokes are damaging no doubt. Still, I can understand why he felt attacked. My guess Maron was just so surprised when he got ahold of Galagher (that inoffensive, all-family watermelon smashing novelty act) and his recent material. It is pretty ridiculous, and we all know Maron isn't someone to mince words. So he kind of pressed Galagher on the issue, and Galagher felt like he was being given the third degree. Makes sense.
  • almost three years ago
    Corey Koehler
    Interesting interview. I get what you are saying but it just seems kind of hypocritical on your part to hammer on a comedian for telling these kinds of jokes. Would you hammer on Eddie Murphy for his gay jokes? Or his stereotyping of white people? How about Kinison hammering on Christians? You didn't seem to have any issues with Dice who tells similar jokes. Its like you are trying to censor comedy or something... you can say this but don't can't say that. Just sayin. No on to the Chris Rock interview...
  • almost three years ago
    Lynn Daniel
    And what is it that would make me want to listen to this prick again? I guess I missed it.
  • almost three years ago
    Dan
    Listened to the whole interview. You need to learn how to shut the fuck up and let your guests answer your ridiculous questions. This guy was kind enough to show up for your interview and you did nothing but attack him, relentlessly. You're just another self absorbed prick trying to patch together your so called career at the expense of others. WTF! Yeah, what the fuck! You insincere little creep. Your mother should have swallowed when she had the chance.
  • almost three years ago
    Leila
    You know what's weird? I was in my twenties throughout the 80s and I never heard of the guy. Don't know how that happened. But after watching some clips on YouTube I think I know why: he was lame-o.
  • over three years ago
    tomas
    I was late to hear this and although Gallagher is clearly rascist, homophobic, bitter, disingenuous, vain and angry. However Mark definitely attacked him quietly and persistently on the racist point and would not let it go. This part of the discussion was boring because it went nowhere yet both men's egos kept them in a circular argument for fifteen minutes. I turned it off before he even walked out.
  • over three years ago
    boomer
    I almost feel bad for Gallagher. I don't know him at all but he sounds like an old, confused man. I don't think Gallagher's genuinely hateful, at least he doesn't come off that way. Marc really went after him for what seems like something all comics do. Marc kept saying he doesn't have a problem with him, but he obviously does. I don't blame Gallagher for walking out.
  • over three years ago
    Mojo
    Love the WTF podcasts. Insightful, genuine, informative. There is more than entertainment to them, there's some soul.

    But, what (the fuck) was THAT?

    I mean, a serious ambush of someone who didn't even understand what a podcast is? What was gained by that? Blindsiding a sold-out, old, has-been comic?

    And for what? Because he's telling dated, crass street jokes that he can barely recite, let alone write. And you're trying to bully confession on the grounds of the social stigma you feel he's causing? He barely understands what he's doing, let along what you're accusing him of. How is he supposed to defend it?

    For someone who claims to be so anti-bully, you did a great job of being one there.

    Do you really feel good about this, Marc?
  • over three years ago
    ba ba blacksheep
    I'm very much a liberal but I don't think political correctness belongs in comedy. It sounded like Marc was in the mood to fight. I've never heard some one be such a PC stormtrooper. It made me squirm a lot to hear Marc bullying an old, washed up comic. I love WTF podcast but I'm on Team Gallagher here.
  • three and a half years ago
    joel berggren
    I'm no gallagher fan, but he was trying to honestly answer your obviously biased, pointlessly hostile line of questioning. Maron was being a real cunt and terrible host
  • three and a half years ago
    Fuck YOU and YOU
    Fucking PC liberal cocksucker. I'd rather listen to Gallagher's shitty act than some fucking leftist pushing his agenda. You're not a gay, let gays defend themselves, you turn them into babies and take away their voice by acting like the angry self appointed white knight defender.

    Gallagher had a heart attack on stage. He will die soon. He doesn't much like the state this country is in these days and I'm sure he'll be out of his misery when he does die.

    People should be able to tell any joke they want. If you don't like it, don't go to his show, and don't interview him. Above all, don't lie to him and get him on your show just to treat him as your leftist PC thug punching bag.

    It's called if you want a sanitized PC world, only hang around with people with the same views as you and don't try and make the world in your image.

  • three and a half years ago
    Liz
    Way to go Marc! The continuing insensitivities of people like Gallagher are what perpetuate this hateful, bully mentality that exists and is rearing it's ugly head in our society today. Way to go Marc, for [trying to] explain why his attitude is so backwards.

    There's no reason to feel sorry for Gallagher here, he knows he's a jerk. There's no excuse for behavior like this, he's clearly old enough to know better than to exacerbate this idiotic behavior. I'm super impressed with Marc, love that he has the balls to call someone out on their shit face to face like this.

  • three and a half years ago
    GM
    Oh, man, I hate not being able to keep up with the twice-weekly rate these shows drop at. I just finished the Gallagher episode (I've listened to every single episode since the very beginning) and now there's been close to a couple hundred comments so this likely won't get read.

    I'm Marc's age. I have no idea how old I was when I first started seeing Gallagher on TV all the time (I remember the old Make Me Laugh) and I couldn't stand him. I still don't appreciate his comedy. But... I'll still defend him here. That Stranger review Marc seemed to draw from was so wrong on so many levels it was disappointing Marc took it as gospel. For one thing, it was just one young hipster's view. For another, the writer took jokes as a reflection of what the man "had become". I'm seeing more and more of that lately -- news stories/reviews/gossip items trying to make the claim that someone's act = real life. OMG! Chelsea Handler totally ripped Angelina Jolie! Lisa Lampanelli totally disrespected Zsa Zsa Gabor! Gallagher's right: they're jokes. That's not to argue they're good jokes, but you can't really make the leap from joke to reality. I could see it more if the comic were a socio-political comic rather than a cartoon character who told silly street jokes. There's absolutely no way this aging hippy was making any kind of social/political statement.

    As someone else here wrote (I actually read every comment prior to making mine), Adam Carolla is way, way more racist and homophobic. I always liked Carolla from the little I saw of him on talk shows so I gave him podcast a listen on several different occasions. But I won't again and that's because it's hard to separate his hurtful or demeaning comments-masked-as-jokes (they're not thought-out jokes but just shock comments said in conversation) from the man. So, yes, why the double standard? Is it because Gallagher is old and irrelevant? Maybe it's because I, like Marc, am getting up there that I hate hearing younger people dismiss someone just because they're old and not as hip as they used to be.

    I also heard Gallagher with older ears. That is, I assumed he was being funny early in the interview in, as someone else said, a Pepitone-esque way.

    That being said, I loved the episode. I found myself agreeing with both Gallagher and Marc at different times. I really hope you can patch things up and talk again.
  • three and a half years ago
    loafward
    I appreciate Marc's humor more than Gallaher's. Marc is a comedian for 21st-century sensibilities, etc. Gallagher, however, won this interview in as much as he was funny during this conversation--his "truth" was presented in a humorous way against Marc's flood of righteousness.

    Marc, please continue your efforts at relaxing, because we're gonna need you for the future.
  • three and a half years ago
    Greg
    Marc Maron.... I love all your videos... and by far... I think you handled this amazingly well. God, Gallagher is so fuckin insane it's really sad... Bravo brother, thoroughly enjoyed this, however, I don't think I'll ever listen to this episode ever... again lmao.
  • three and a half years ago
    daniel
    you, Marc, are a trooper for this. I wish you would have called him the "unfunny David Crosby" but I realize that everyday can't be christmas.
  • three and a half years ago
    dancebert
    Marc shows the typical intolerance of the self righteous left. Gallagher kept giving Marc alternate views on the subject and Marc just stuck up his hate screed. Marc, why did you make this podcast public? He owned you.
  • three and a half years ago
    Craig
    This was the 3rd WTF podcasts that I had listened to so I don't have a wide base to compare how Mark interviews others. It did seem like he had a chip with his questions to Gallagher. Not long ago Opie and Anthony also had Gallagher on their show and they made it into a very funny hour of questions and comments. In this case WTF stood for "Where's The Funny"
  • three and a half years ago
    Jaxx Noamon
    I like Marc Maron... But in the case of the Gallagher interview I thought Marc was a total dick. Marc really did attack Gallagher and I thought very unfairly. I don't think Gallagher did himself any favors by walking out on Marc but Marc was a total dick. Marc has interviewed other guests with something in his craw before, but he always let them really explain themselves. I thought he really didn't give Gallagher the same respect or opportunity. He should have him back on allow him to talk more. The reverse stereo type crap that ethnic comics use is far worse than what Gallagher does and so those comics should shut the F' up in regards to this issue. Marc... You were not professional, but it was entertaining until he walked out. You let your personal issues interfere with the interview and I think you were wrong. Thanks. ;-) I still like both Marc Maron and Gallagher.
  • three and a half years ago
    Claartje
    I don't think you were very agressive at all or came on too strong, Gallagher seemed extremely bitter already from the start of the show onwards. He's bitter about all those new kids getting their own tv show, he's repulsed by their personal acts, holding on for dear life to his achievements back then. It's quite tragic and you seemed quite shaken by it, by his defensive response and bitter attitude. Guess this didn't help the communication flow between you two. Walking away was lame.
  • three and a half years ago
    laura
    Artless harassment....what was the point of continuing? All had been asked and answered. The leave-taking of the subject was the only tactful conclusion to this blood sport. Gnawing at someone does not constitute an interview.
  • three and a half years ago
    Steve Hatchett
    It wasn't as bad as I thought it was going to be. The guy's not funny and never was but it can't feel good getting caught up in his bullshit.
  • three and a half years ago
    Bill
    Just catching up on this interview now. Love you Marc and love the podcast but this is clearly the worst "interview" you've ever done. I'm not a big fan of Gallagher. I remember him from the 80's and 90's. He was okay and seemed to have found his niche and I always found it interesting reading his brother had taken over his act.

    The first part of the interview was interesting. I enjoyed hearing a comic of his generation talk about the Comeday Store and the "comedian Strike" and his thoughts on not having a tv show because he went on the road. Really interesting stuff.

    And then.... out of no where, completely left field, you accuse him of being a racist and homophobe. Where the hell did THAT come from. Bill O'Reilly couldn't have done a better job of ambushing someone. And then it was unrelenting. I actually had more respect for him for hanging in there and taking that uncalled for abuse for so long. You really left him no choice but to walk off because you lost your own cool, and you wouldn't even let him respond. Clearly you had an agenda and ruined what could have been a great interview. I would have told you f off long before he did. I admire that he did try and respond for as long as he did. You get an F on this one Marc. It was a sad display and showed absolutely no respect or objectivity at all.
  • three and a half years ago
    Sean Marten
    For me listening, the absence of body language and facial cues made it hard to be absolutely sure, right up to the moment he threw the mic down, whether or not he was genuinely angry, or just riding the debate spiral for the hell of it. Every once in a while he'd let fly with that weird kazoo laugh of his, and I'd be back to wondering "Is he just trying to fuck with Marc? Does he know who he's dealing with?" Obviously not, and obviously he was pissed. Made some damn compelling listening, though. Thanks for putting it up on the 'cast.

    Liked your remarks about Portland, too. It all sounded just about right. I've been here since 1976 -- and I just got hosed from a 28 year career at a "heritage" Portland radio station, so your remarks about the "arc of anyone's career" also had a certain...resonance.

    Keep up the good work.
  • three and a half years ago
    shannon
    sad, yet amazingly entertaining, podcast. i think marc handled gallagher's nuttiness as well as anyone could have. and as for calling him out on racism & prejudice, i think that was great. despite being a super liberal lefty, i am open to offensive comedy as long as it's FUNNY - which really means smart. gallagher just seems to be pandering to the lowest common denominator without any thought or artistry. great episode.
  • three and a half years ago
    Jayne DeMarco
    anyone who is this defensive has got issues. honestly, i'm kind of glad he walked out because i didn't want to listen to him for any longer than i had to.
  • three and a half years ago
    bluhb
    I didn't know anything about Gallagher lately, I was feeling a little bad when I heard he got ripped on because I thought of him as some washed up kid's comic, which is always depressing.. but jesus fucking christ, what a screeching, annoying son of a bitch... his views were stupid enough, but that fucking VOICE...
  • three and a half years ago
    ape
    Did you ever think you would utter, with such earnestness, the phrase:

    "We were having a good conversation. Awww...c'mon, Gallagher."
    ?


    Brilliant.
  • three and a half years ago
    phil
    i'm a little surprised you took that angle Marc. why censor comedy?

    George Carlin on left wing paternalism:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8_YL3q1--U
  • three and a half years ago
    Brandon M
    C'mon Marc, we could hear your smile as you pounded on Gallagher ;) I think you wanted to get his goat a little bit and it certainly worked.

    Goddamned entertaining podcast.
  • three and a half years ago
    Maria
    Wow, Gallagher is out of his mind.
    What an insane narcissist.
    I think Marc did the best he could considering.
    I think Marc nailed it on the head at the end.
    Gallagher is an old, disconnected, irrelevant, bitter old man.
    What a ranting fucktard.
  • three and a half years ago
    biglife
    Gallagher sounded just like my dead grandpa.
  • three and a half years ago
    Shecky
    I think if you listened carefully to Marc's tone you can tell that in the beginning of the interview he was trying to find ways to engage Gallagher. As time went on and Gallagher seemed determined to control the interview, many times cutting Marc off. Marc started to sound frustrated and eventually became angered. Leading to the eventual stalemate. If it didn't become an argument over gay jokes it would have been something else. I'm sure if Gallagher was more considerate Marc would never have become so aggressive.
  • three and a half years ago
    Eric
    I thought this was actually an interesting, informative interview up until about 30 seconds before Gallagher walked out. It was clear from the first moment that Gallagher and Maron were on totally different levels. Who the hell puts street jokes in their act and then claims to be a craftsman? And then to blame the audience for your lack of craftsmanship? Really ridiculous.

    And I was pretty sympathetic to the sort of class of comedian that Gallagher was representing. The kind who not only spend hours thinking what to say, but how to say it, how to perform it for an audience. It does seem like something that's been lost over time, that it's not enough to have ideas, you have to put on a show. I don't necessarily agree with that sentiment, but I can certainly understand how someone can become bitter about society failing to value what they feel they've worked really hard to accomplish.

    It's too bad he's got such a chip on his shoulder. He should be happy to have had the time he did and to have made the money he did even if it was only temporary-- instead of using it as fuel for his bitterness furnace.
  • three and a half years ago
    Miles Woods
    Gallagher is out his fucking Mind! People who talk about their lives are hacks? Look at fucking Richard Pryor! Gallagher doesn't even write his act, and is a crazy fucked old man, and Marc was trying to disarm that crazy faggot, by saying everybody knew him. You wanna know how the fuck I know Gallagher? When Dave Chappelle was making fun of him. And "all black comedians talk about the difference between blacks and whites." What the fuck, for those of you defending Gallagher, you clearly are a testament to idiocy.
  • three and a half years ago
    ant
    "who the fuck wants to work a state fair?"

    This interview was so damn funny. Yet really sad at the same time. It sounded like Maron was alternately interviewing a cranky elderly woman and The Joker.

    Who knew Gallagher was scared shit of electrons?

    If the Gallagher went on the show as a character he truly is a genius comic. If that's his actual personality, he's shit balls crazy.
  • three and a half years ago
    h benjamin
    people filter things differently, I guess, but I never felt MM's interviewing of Gallagher was aggressive. When you are interviewing someone, as opposed to just having a private conversation, you have goals you need to accomplish on behalf of the audience: relevant information and honest or illuminating (and maybe entertaining) answers. A written feature or an edited audio feature can obscure whether the interview was combative; MM's MO is to have the raw conversation warts and all; I think that is the reason a lot of us keep coming back. Aggressive is how I would describe Gallagher's stance from Moment One of the interview, and that is why I do not feel the sympathy for him that many others seem to.
  • three and a half years ago
    Seth
    Are you and Gallagher in cahoots? Because both of your carees are going to get a boost from this. The New York Times published an article about this?! You can't afford that kind of advertisment! Either way very well played Mr. Maron. By the way I loved hearing you on Adam Carolla's podcast.
  • three and a half years ago
    Damon
    I don't know, Marc.... I think you were a little aggressive here, and you sounded like you were trying to pin Gallagher down. I mean, the point you were basically moving the goalpoast on him in order to make your point. Not that Gallagher is right, but you were definitely coming at the guy with a morality angle that was sort of manipulative, a bit of a sucker punch. There was no way he was going to say anything you were going to agree with unless he just said "you're right." I actually find Gallagher to be incredibly unfunny, but I don't think this was really a fare conversation. Sounded like a beat up match, like you were bullying him. Yeah, he should be able to take it, but that was a little rough.
  • three and a half years ago
    emmitt mak
    Whatever you may think of the man, he was your guest and you treated him like shit. You were argumentative, and you seemed bent on provoking him. As an interviewer, you clearly failed. As a host, you clearly failed.
    Were I a comedian of any stripe I would hesitate to be on your show, and I would be totally on gaurd if I were.
  • three and a half years ago
    AK
    LOL on Oasis getting played as the in-betweener music!
  • three and a half years ago
    John T. Feaster
    Marc, you weren't a bully...and you weren't wrong...Gallagher has a thin skin, and as you didn't agree with him...he felt you had an agenda. As he thinks his position is the correct one, he gets bent out of shape when other people take the "wrong" position. In his mind, it's like you're being willfully obtuse. You wern't very diplomatic...but then again, that's what I usually like about you. When faced with a differing opinion, you don't just surrender and adopt a conciliatory attitude...you challenge the guest to explain themselves. Trust me, most of us don't WANT you to pretend this is the "The Merv Griffin Show" ;>)
  • three and a half years ago
    ActionBatch
    Holy cow! I remember Gallagher from when I was a kid and was absolutely entranced when I saw that he stormed off of the cast. Couldn't wait to hear it. From the start he sounded like a raging alcoholic. Loud and confrontational. The whole interview was uncomfortable because he really came off as a ticking time bomb. Marc, I'm really impressed that you *were* able to fit a word in, edge-wise. From the talk about Leno/Letterman on the inside track to chemistry and state fairs... Jeebus, this guy was all OVER the place! I always thought that Gallagher was a bit political for my taste when I was a pre-teen, but from what I just heard, the man smacks of sociopath.

    Forget Frost-Nixon, make this interview into a movie!
  • three and a half years ago
    marc
    yeah George. Marc is a freak. Horrible to listen to. A total jerk. He's reminds of those people that are so dumb you just can't describe it. Poor Gallagher to have to go through that from this scum bag of a host. Like WTF is right! you're totally in the wrong business Marc. I can't believe you are famous or a comedian. stop everything and get lost weirdo. Seriously, what is wrong with you? You need to go to a metal hospital and be banned from society. You're a very dumb old man. Too bad you don't have the brain capacity to be able to read or understand what I am saying.
  • three and a half years ago
    Crate&Trauma
    Marc you should repost your interview with "Lawton Smalls" from episode 3. It's kind of creepy how similar Lawton is to Gallagher.
  • three and a half years ago
    Conway
    Marc didn't really act much different than he does with anyone else its just that Gallagher was taken back by Marc's aggressive approach to working out any issue he talks about.

    Gallagher is out-of-touch, rich, sad, insecure, unchallenged, and seems to be barely holding life together. I feel for Gallagher and the feeling of being let down over the years but, he has no room to complain. He has been wildly successful and has taken that for granted and sold himself out to any laugh at any cost. I hope this gives him a chance to reflect and change his life and come back. Marc may only know people who thought he was funny to 10 year olds and I may have been one of them (and not for the smashing stuff) but, he was insightful and I can recall learning new perspectives on things when those early specials use to come on in reruns. He was relevant to me, success screwed up his perspective, maybe now reality can fix it.
  • three and a half years ago
    george
    Well, he's a whack job, but he's completely right about how poorly you handled it. You had an agenda and no interest in the actual correct points he made, as few and far between as they may be.
  • three and a half years ago
    Miles
    I lived in Portland for 10 years before finally moving to Seattle and I thought your comments about Portland were spot-on. That feeling of "not fitting in"? Yeah, I felt that for 10 years... Good to know it wasn't just me.
  • three and a half years ago
    jenn b
    Hate to say it, but Gallagher is old. He represents a generation that still thinks it funny to make fun of people who have less power in society than they do. Har har har, isn't it so funny to see that guy feel small! He walked out because he couldn't take someone calling him out on that. Good for you, Marc. Great podcast!
  • three and a half years ago
    George Florin
    awesome podcast...sounds like Gallagher lost the argument and had to run in shame...did you see a tail between his legs? it's hard to defend hate in a comedy...how was he getting work in Portland?...the scary part is that he said he does 3 hours of stuff...one can only imagine the horror...I wonder what carrot top's act will be like in 20 years..
  • three and a half years ago
    Steven Doyle
    Oh -- there's no good evidence that cell phone use causes a higher incidence of brain cancer. Gallagher, like a lot of people with some science in their background but who aren't doing actual research, is something of a crank.
  • three and a half years ago
    Steven Doyle
    How can somebody have a career as long as Gallagher's, and apparently have put so little thought into what he's doing? He really was out of his depth with Maron talking about either comedy of politics.
  • three and a half years ago
    exitBxC
    "I wouldn't a minded a talk show" - Thank you, good night.
  • three and a half years ago
    Craig Mayhem
    Anybody who thinks Marc is to blame for Gallagher walking off by being antagonistic from square one is foolish. The reason this podcast is great is Marc asks challenging questions and doesn't kiss a guest's ass for 30 minutes. Watch Jay Leno if you want that. Gallagher had plenty of opportunity to address Marc questions about why he thinks people perceive him as sexist / racist and why articles are being written that claim this. What the hell else is he going to ask Gallagher about? It's not like the guy has a lot going on besides that. Could have been an interesting conversation.

    Instead he just tried to shout Marc down. I give Marc credit for remaining as calm for as long as he did before he too had to resort to raising his voice.

    I was actually interesting hearing Gallagher's philosophy on comedy and I agree you can make fun of anything in comedy. The difference is Gallagher does it using base, elementary 'jokes' and as stated in an above comment, just presents a stereotype instead of crafting an actual joke. Sure some people like that, but people like a lot of terrible things. Including Gallagher.
  • three and a half years ago
    Ian
    At first listen I though Marc was just trying to push buttons, but now I see he was just being honest with himself and arguing what he believes rather than acting as a neutral inquisitor. Marc did display patience though: "OK, I'll hear you out." Gallagher did sound very Manson-like when he was defending himself.
  • three and a half years ago
    John F.
    Marc -- who's spent how many hours at the Comedy Cellar -- railing against for no better term, "mean comedy" (stereotypes in this case), was very strange. Having to defend it, Gallagher of all people, temporarily turned into like the bearer of edgy comedy in this particular discussion. I mean Gallagher being completely insane was no surprise, but Gallagher, the watermelon guy, being too edgy for Marc; total mindfuck. Marc, you're too smart to disallow certain jokes because they go against your own ideology. I'm sure people have been doing the same thing to you for years. It's a slippery slope, and nobody wins. The fact that hack was repeating jokes he heard on the street is much more offensive.
  • three and a half years ago
    ren
    Wow, that was hard to listen to. I don't know what their conversation was like before the interview started, but Gallagher seemed hyper-defensive from the get-go, and just got crazier and ANGRIER as the thing went on. He wasn't even making sense half the time. Some great quotable lines though - "Aw, c'mon Gallagher" was my favorite, but "Gallagher come back!" made me LOL too.
  • three and a half years ago
    jimbo
    if gallagher didnt walk off, nobody would be talking about this interview, because he's a blowhard hack with a dated viewpoint and dated jokes. he did himself a favor by walking off and getting publicity that his unfunny act and bad attitude wouldn't otherwise warrant.
  • three and a half years ago
    Finnguy
    Maron went too far with this one. He's put out some great interviews in the past 2 months but this is not one of them.

    Marc, you forced a subject on him when both of you couldn't come to an agreement about it instead of dropping the subject. Before Gallagher leaves, the interview has turned into a clusterfuck.

    And I am not saying this as any Gallagher fan or whatever but you fucked up this time. He is not known as an insult comic or famous for his racial/homo-oriented material.
  • three and a half years ago
    Ignis
    There were some themes in this interview that would have been interesting to elaborate on had it gone longer. Like a band that has to keep performing a song they're thoroughly sick of after putting out a decade of new albums, I think Gallagher always secretly wanted the wordplay and social observations part of his act to take off but had to keep doing the props by popular demand. Is the audience or the comedian the most important part of the show to adjust over time? With regards to "offensiveness", I'd much rather see an act that makes me uncomfortable once in a while than to know a comedian is filtering. I still love Sam Kinison's stuff even if parts of it kind of make me cringe; what would be left with if they had to chop that to meet today's social norms? I don't know that I totally buy into the premise "it's just jokes", but comedy seems more genuine and engaging to me when the personality of the comedian is allowed through. Anyway, your interviews are always great even if the guest can only sometimes stay for half of them.
  • three and a half years ago
    JK
    Maron can't win. If he didn't push Gallagher this hard, much of his audience would say "you let a racist homophobe off the hook." If he pushed him too hard, comedy nerds would say "you didn't give enough deference to a legend." Whatcha gonna do?
  • three and a half years ago
    JK
    Could this be a generational thing? I think Marc's interview with Gallagher was so confrontational because they fundamentally disagree about what comedy is. Gallagher thinks comedy is anything that will draw a crowd and make them laugh (laughing at you). Marc thinks comedy is about emotional catharsis achieved by exposing oneself so intimately that the audience can see themselves in the comedian (laughing with you).

    I imagine an interview with Joan Rivers would sound about the same as this one does. ("They're drinking!" "They're laughing!" "What's the problem?") Marc comes out of recovery and therapy culture. From what he said, Gallagher comes out of boozy nightclub culture (or would like to present himself that way). I don't know enough about comedy history to know if his claim is legitimate, or just a convenient cover.
  • three and a half years ago
    Jimmy Reefercake
    highly recommend this latest interview where Gallagher storms out. Maron becomes quite a bully, or at least dances on that line, as he calls out Gallagher for homophobic jokes. Gallagher is one angry son of a bitch, and just the sound of him going on like this angry old man was cracking me up. Angry old guys are funny to me. But Maron went out for blood, and even though he could have eased up, and gotten even more great material, he decided to bury him, by repeatedly bludgeoning him with "homophobic" jokes until Gallagher stormed off. It was brilliant.

    Homophobic is a weird term that I don't think really applies to Gallagher's 7th grade sex comedy lines. I'd like to go back and listen to the exact lines, but I think the essence of Gallagher's jokes were specifically referring to sex acts in a silly way more than in a fearful or hateful way.

    I'd like to see another interview where you guys kiss and make up.
  • three and a half years ago
    John W
    A lot of you missed the point here. I think Marc was trying to get there with Gallagher. When is a racist joke... just racist? When it is not funny then it is just racist and that is the same for all bigoted jokes. Intent is another part of it, but most comics will say "I'm trying to get laughs" much like Gallagher said. When pressed further he tried to justify the jokes by saying he heard them in the street. There is no cleverness or creativity in retelling common street jokes. Thus, there is nothing funny about his act and it is just racist.
  • three and a half years ago
    MichaelG
    Jennifer 19 Hours Ago
    "I've listened every episode of WTF and no one you've interviewed, not even Carlos Mencia is as un-selfaware as Gallagher."

    Ummm... Let's not get crazy.
    But based on what I've heard in the L.A. comedy community (and I live/work here) the WTF interview might have broken Ned, which is outstanding. He is some sort of drug/alcohol fiend now.

    At THE TIME he had zero self-awareness and 100% defense mechanisms, though.
  • three and a half years ago
    Clint Flesh
    Pick on someone your own size Maron!

    Why not get Doug Stanhope, Frankie Boyle or Ricky Gervais in to talk about the merits of offensive comedy?

    You're a big fish. You shouldn't be fighting minnows.

    For an alternate view on offensive comedy see: Doug Stanhope's recent article: http://www.heraldscotland.com/mobile/comment/guest-commentary/doug-stanhope-on-offensive-comedy-1.1083012
  • three and a half years ago
    dfeuw
    I think Marc had to compenstae for Gallagher's vigorous defensive/attacking stance. It's no one's fault really. Maybe the manager. The New York Time article said that Marc is a probing interviewer that reveals as much himself as his guests. Gallagher, on the other hand, did reveal himself, but in a very nasty way. Marc, as the crusader for making amends and calling on bs, chased Gallagher down his ranting spiral. What you got was two grown men arguing. Gallagher defended himself by attacking everyone else. Marc, tried to call Gallagher on his sh#$3t. This episode reminded me of the DAne Cook episode, where Dane said in a hurt and angry tone. "I need water, now." Marc's gonna verbally spar with you. Marc will make you own everything you say. Gallagher was honest, but in a completely un-pc way. Marc wanted Gallagher to keep digging. Unfortunately, Gallagher buried himself before he walked off into the distant horizon. I wonder what kind of interview they could've had with some Just Coffee- wtf blend.
  • three and a half years ago
    draydin black
    ladies and gentleman the king of side stepping GALLAGHER. mark you were not antagonistic your are truthful and GALLAGHER you are a butt hurt pathetic old has been who insults his fans.in my opinion your a disgrace to the entertainment industry, get a grip!!!

    did he just admit to plagiarism? how pathetic!!

    -draydin the damned one
  • three and a half years ago
    jon blitt
    That was amazing... Who the Fuck wants to work a state fair.... everybody.
  • three and a half years ago
    Ben
    He sounded so pathetic talking about Leno & Letterman.
  • three and a half years ago
    Rich in Washington
    Gawd, that's funny! and by that I mean unintentionally...
    He's got that same idiotic tendency to contradict himself and turn questions towards him back at Maron, sort of like Charles Manson's attempts to twist every bit of logic his way with nonsensical arguments.
    What a sad, bitter little man.
    Also, I think the Craig Marquardo he mentions is the same meglomaniacal clown who's made spectacular claims of fame and fortune in Portland and the host of the dubious and thoroughly useless Portland Music Awards.
  • three and a half years ago
    SonicGG
    This has really blown up! The RealGallagher twitter is gone (may have been an impostor) and Gallagher's site is down:
    http://www.gallaghersmash.com/

    I happened across this old article about Gallagher that provides some interesting tidbits:
    http://articles.latimes.com/1988-04-28/entertainment/ca-2908_1_gallagher-projects


    He spent most of his life in Tampa, Fla., and at first majored in chemical engineering at the University of Southern Florida while holding down a job as chief chemist at a Kaiser Aluminum nitric acid plant. "I could see that the liberal arts courses got you a job as a busboy."
    He kept his job, but changed his major to English literature. He had a '60s social consciousness that eventually drove him out of chemistry ("I know I polluted Tampa Bay with chromates") and into a brief unhappy flirtation with advertising, prelude to an agonizing period of wandering, experiment and hard times.

    ....
    (about the Veg-o-matic)
    Gallagher's spirits seemed to fade with the dusky light. Darkness began creeping into the room. "One night I was watching TV. This ad for Vegamatic came on. 'Why not just smash the food?' I thought. 'You have to eat it anyway.' "

    Gallagher recalled working up a routine in verse and playing it for an agent who was shaving in a hotel room. The agent managed a singer and performer named Jim Stafford, a big draw in the region. Gallagher went to work for Stafford as a gofer; Stafford in turn taught Gallagher about stagecraft, how to organize an act, and how to present himself. (Stafford now sings and plays guitar on the "Smothers Brothers Show.")
  • three and a half years ago
    cryoz
    Ignoring spam, most commented episode to date. Those state fairs have certainly paid off, Sir Gallagher!
  • three and a half years ago
    Jereny Tackett
    I listened to the Gallagher interview yesterday and I wanted to comment immediately. I was surprised to see 101 comments when I logged into the site. Wow...who knew Gallagher would be the guest to elicit such a response? I'm sure someone has already addressed what I have to say, but I don't have time to read all of the comments right now, so I'll chip in anyway. It seems to me that Gallagher has no specific worldview and simply (according to what he said) tailors his act to suit specific audiences. That's pretty much the definition of a hack comic. He doesn't see his comedy or comedy in a general sense as art, but rather as a tool to promote his own profit and his continued viability (which is clearly waning). Comedians like Marc who feature their own worldview and speak from that perspective are likely somewhat threatening to Gallagher, which is why he came into the interview so defensive. The venues that will agree to feature an act like Gallagher are smaller and draw less diverse audiences, and Gallagher is happy to "play to" the audience he draws. The difference between Marc and Gallagher is obvious. It would be like Norman Mailer (Marc) having a conversation about literature with Dean Koontz. Great interview, Marc...given the subject and the result.
  • three and a half years ago
    Gloria
    I love you Marc, but neither one of you came off well in this episode. You WERE a bit aggressive, but I'll be damed if Gallagh. isn't the most thin-skinned motherf_cker.
  • three and a half years ago
    Cindy
    I love how Gallagher goes on about how the younger generation doesn't know how technology works yet he doesn't understand what a podcast is! I loved Gallagher as a kid, he was witty and seemed so smart and smashing the fruit was an exciting way to get his points across and to end his shows. From hearing this interview, I'm guessing that the man has been on some serious medication for some time now, and it must have affected all of his reasoning. He was out of control and defensive from the get-go, projecting all of his pent up frustration at Marc. Thanks for sharing it with us Marc!
  • three and a half years ago
    Ben
    I'm dying to hear this. My computer's saying the link's dead for some reason. Could someone e-mail it to me? nutkicker@gmail.com
  • three and a half years ago
    Lee Stringer
    Why wasn't my paragraph breaks in my post? Need to get your web guy to fix that. Reading it without the breaks made me seem like a babbling idiot. Even more than usual.
  • three and a half years ago
    WR
    And by the way, you can't just come on Marc Maron's show (asked to be in it too), dismiss the entire history of comedians that talk about themselves and not expect him to blow up. In Marc's mind there had to be a line that included Richard Pryor, Woody Allen, Bill Cosby, Bill Hicks, Louis Ck, and himself (obviously) just getting slapped by this clown and throwing comments out there like "your comedy won't work on state fairs". I mean, this was a fucking circus of an interview and Marc couldn't handle being condescended to like that by the guy that smashes melons. It's very difficult to stay calm under those circumstances. Even Mencia and Robin Williams talked to him and respected him as a peer. This guy was just delusional, disrespectful and it touched nerve. It doesn't matter though, Marc's humanity, flawed as it may be (aren't we all) is amazing to listen to.
  • three and a half years ago
    WR
    I don't think Marc said: "Don't say the joke! You can't." I think it was more along the lines of: "Say it, but be aware that it has an effect and you have to deal with it." I mean the guy has offensive jokes about gays, arabs, black people, etc. and when you ask him about them, he just comes back with: "I didn't write them". Just fucking take responsibility for them and admit you want to provoke or push the envelope but have some balls about it. The "I just make people laugh" or "I'm just a comic" argument is so vague...I even hate Jon Stewart when he uses it because it's dismissive to the fact that you're obviously making jokes with serious social undertones to them, so you better have self-knowledge or self-awareness to the effect it has on people. By saying you're a comic you're just not engaging on the discussion you provoked when you made the joke and that's not fair when there's an audience involved...that right there is the Glenn Beck tactic: Calling somebody a Nazi but then shutting the door on the possibility of their asking why you said that.You can't just throw that out there and not expect somebody to question you about it. Gallagher is a comedian but he was on a podcast, not on the stage, and there was a guy that disagreed on the other side with a microphone. And it was the other guys' show.
  • three and a half years ago
    J
    For Christ's sake... 93 some odd comments on the Gallagher interview?

    Maybe the Carolla interview yesterday gave you some new listeners.

    Anyway, my two cents... I agree with someone above who wished you would have just let Gallagher dig his own grave. You did jump on him in a way you haven't with past guests. It appears Gallagher was last minute, you never thought of interviewing him, maybe didn't care to, weren't prepared and just kind of wanted to get it over with and leave Portland.

    I don't think you did anything terrible, it's just not the way you've approached past interviews... He was being condescending and acting as if he were THE elder-statesman of "comedy," but I think most of your listeners saw through that shit which alone kind of came off sad.

    Yes, I bought the WTF IPhone app and pay the annual fee... I'm entitled to voice criticism... not like some of these other freeloaders. People, pay Marc already! At least buy a fuckin' coffee mug or something.
  • three and a half years ago
    Mike D.
    Wow. I agree, Marc definitely added fuel to the fire by asking some loaded questions but this was extremely interesting before it turned ugly. As a person who has had interviewees "walk off" its never fun and you'll never know exactly what the trigger was. Mark should definitely apologize and finish the interview in neutral territory. Gallagher is a fascinating guy with a ton of insight that needs to be shared.
  • three and a half years ago
    Booger
    I think you sounded like a fool, Marc. Being someone involved in comedy, it was unbelievable the way you took his comedy and interview into something dark and about hate and intolerance. like he said IT'S A JOKE!
  • three and a half years ago
    Jennifer
    I've listened every episode of WTF and no one you've interviewed, not even Carlos Mencia is as un-selfaware as Gallagher. Yeah, maybe you were a little aggressive, but he continually evaded your questions. You gave as good as you got and when you got nothing you kept pushing. Yes, Joan Rivers and Don Rickles say things on stage that are offensive to all kinds of people, but they can tell you exactly why they do it and what they get from it. Not this guy.
  • three and a half years ago
    DAn Buskik
    I love Gallagher's disbelief that you're calling him on intolerance towards Arabs. He's like, "Waitaminute....I can't hate Arabs?" He seems to hate his audience too, like they're too dense to get the satire inherent in crushing food with a big hammer. Too bad you couldn't get into the Gallagher 2 court case, one of the weirder showbiz stories of recent times. Fascinating interview.
  • three and a half years ago
    rb
    I don't think Marc attacked Gallagher. Marc was persistent in asking about the homophobic jokes, which got intense; but beyond that I think the conversation was just starting to get interesting at the point of the walkout. They were about to debate two different philosophies of comedy. Basically, I don't think Gallagher had any interest in argument and was not expecting a younger comedian to come at him in what was probably perceived as a disrespectful manner. Like his comedy, Gallagher wanted to keep the discussion on the surface and not scratch beneath it nor talk about himself.
  • three and a half years ago
    DICKM
    "I have no idea who you are Marc" Then you go on to give a broad statement about his talent ?

    Come on.... Listen to a few of his shows and then have an opinion. Most people here think you are VERY wrong on that.

    Dick
  • three and a half years ago
    Chopperx
    I like this podcast, but jesus what an awful way to approach the subject. Just out of nowhere and with nothing specific. It was basically: "Hey, you're a racist and a homophobe, defend yourself!" I have no love for Gallagher, but it seemed like an attack. Some real Fox News shit.

  • three and a half years ago
    Richard
    Feeling like I want to defend Gallagher, as Marc, you kinda did in your intro. I don't know his work - besides a couple of clips on youtube - and didn't grow up with him being a household name, my household being in Manchester, England. What I heard was a guy who didn't understand the premis of the podcast, or even what a podcast was. His bemoaning his position in the industry at the beginning of the interview sounded like he was being funny, ironic, Pepitone-esque... His management said "go do Marc's comedy podcast." What they didn't do is prepare him with "go get on Marc's comedy couch and spill the beans about where you come from and where that's taken you. Have a few laughs along the way." I assume he has never listened to the podcast, he got a little confused at the style of the questions, which took you both into a mid-section that was interesting, informative, but which too quickly spiralled into a shouting match with him on a defensive backfoot. But this is his fault in not seeing this as your show, and not doing homework on what that show strives to do.
    If he is a bigot and a racist, then fuck him. But he probably isn't, he's just a confused member of the old guard, struggling to keep up with an enlightened America, and pandering to those that remain in the dark, the panto crowd. And, if I'm right, then I say give him another bite of the Maron apple, because from what I've now read about the guy, his story would be a fascinating one to hear.
    He came in doing his act, left angry, but somewhere in the middle was a nugget of gold.
  • three and a half years ago
    Felipe
    How about you listen to all the podcasts first and then come here in shame and take that sad shitstain of a comment back, JohnH?
  • three and a half years ago
    CNA Training
    Gallagher was combative and irritable from the moment the interview started. It wasn't even 5 minutes in before he said "How come I don't have my own show!!!" Well....because this isn't 1981 anymore. There's only so many times I could see a guy hitting a watermelon with a hammer. When I was 4 years old, it was hillarious. After a while though, it gets a little repetitive. And to the people who said that Gallagher can say whatever he wants irregardless if it's racist, you're absolutely right. However, Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from criticism. The problem is when somebody calls you out on it, you better be able to have more to say than "I'M A COMEDIAN!!". That's basically what every single response was to Marc's line of questioning. Not to mention, they weren't even his own jokes. Not saying there's anything wrong with that, but if you are going to make a social/political statement, the least you can do is write it from your own perspective. I don't think I have ever heard a guest on Marc's show that I felt more pity towards. Gallagher seems like a guy who wonders why nobody takes him seriously, yet he's still doing an act that caters to the lowest common denominator.
  • three and a half years ago
    Clever Nickname
    "Aww c'mon Gallagher"... legendary... I smell a new opening mix that includes this quote!
  • three and a half years ago
    Katie
    I just figured out why Gallagher thinks state fairs are so important: where else you going to find as many giant vegetables and fruits to smash?
  • three and a half years ago
    JohnH's Dad
    JohnH, go to bed son. You have no idea what you're talking about. Marc certainly has a good idea who he is, more importantly he's always trying to figure it out and work through his personal issues. Have you not listened to his podcasts? He's well respected and hilarious, and now is finally getting a larger audience from WTF. Seriously, go to bed.
  • three and a half years ago
    CalvinJ
    by the way Gallagher has his science wrong. He says the full body scanners are safe because they are photons and not electrons. The reality is high-energy photons are even worse than electrons, the evidence of that is skin cancer. You get skin cancer because high energy photons (called UV rays) hit you skin and mutate your DNA. You do not get cancer from cell phones because those photons are so low energy, they are not even visible light.
  • three and a half years ago
    Calvin
    by the way Gallagher has his science wrong. He says the full body scanners are safe because they are photons and not electrons. The reality is high-energy photons are even worse than electrons, the evidence of that is skin cancer. You get skin cancer because high energy photons (called UV rays) hit you skin and mutate your DNA. You do not get cancer from cell phones because those photons are so low energy, they are not even visible light.
  • three and a half years ago
    Ruth
    Hi Marc - I think you missed the point on mystery guy's offer to meet you personally to discuss what went wrong between you two in the past. From his point of view, if your motivation is to apologize and make the situation right between you, then he's open to doing so, but you're apparently not; if your motivation is to have him on your podcast, then any apology is tainted by the gain that WTF Podcast makes by having him as a guest. I think he did you a favour by not letting you screw up any potential future relationship by involving the podcast/public. Call him back, get together, and tell him how you feel privately.
  • three and a half years ago
    Joe Tily
    I only know Gallagher through the parody Dave Chappelle did of him . . . . never seen his act, though i have heard of him over the years of course.

    Still loved this half an interview. Thanks for having the guts to release something that failed - 'warts an' all'. Another great episode Marc!
  • three and a half years ago
    OsakaJack
    I am going to concur with some of the other comments here and say that this interview went south real quick and just didn't come out of the hole. And I agree with a point Gallagher made, and one which you made, but in the end, you both came out looking like assholes.

    To be fair, you addressed this in the opening of the episode so you reclaim your cred. You have enough introspection to grant that you might have been a little hard on your subject. I can't really say the same for Gallagher: sorry, but you NEVER walk out on an interview. I was super pissed AT him, FOR him. But you handled Mencia and Williams better than this.

    What do I know, though? I still love the show and would rather have the 'human' Marc than a scripted Marc.
  • three and a half years ago
    Evisruc
    The real argument over stereotype jokes is this: Do you want to be a dick or not? Underneath all this talk about being PC, or being sensitive, or jokes just being jokes, is the concept of basic human decency and politeness.

    No one is going to stop you from telling whatever jokes you want, but you have to at least understand that, just as a dude with a microphone that people are there to see, you have a presence and influence on the large cultural conversation we are having. So you do with that power what you will; some people will reinforce stereotypes, some people will make fun of stereotypes. Comedians can do what they want, but don't be surprised when people call you a bully when you're being a bully.

    And I'm so sick of comedians like Gallagher trying to point to double standards like, "Why can black comedians make fun of middle class white males?!"

    Because middle class white males are fine! Reinforcing stereotypes about their middle class-ness is not going to affect them, especially since whiteness as an identity gets treated with much more individuality in our society. Middle class white males do not have a context of historical oppression to deal with. There is no history of dehumanizing middle class white males that gets invoked when someone tells those jokes.

    So if people in power can't make fun of people not in power, whether it be race or gender or class or disability, maybe on a technical sense that's a double standard. But in a human sense, it doesn't really matter, does it?
  • three and a half years ago
    Frank
    ugg, I actually have to side with the hack watermelon smasher. Comedy isn't therapy, it's comedy, it's goal is to make folks laugh,and if folks aint laughing you're not doing it right.
    What was with the whole defender of the gays and Arabs routine? Is Maron now some comedic arbiter who gets to decide what topics,groups,etc are acceptable to make fun of. By Marc's logic gays and arabs should be off limits for Gallagher but he can make fun of the same old tired stereotype of southern Christians who ride Jesus ponies, which is done by every bi-coastal comedian. By his own standards Marc is a hypocrite. If your going to put standards on Gallagher just be consistant with your own.

  • three and a half years ago
    Zounds
    Gallagher is in some serious denial about himself. He projects everything onto others. He so blind to his own failings that he won't stop digging when he's warned to stop as he digs the grave for his career.
  • three and a half years ago
    rafboy
    I've never been a fan of Gallagher's stuff- never really found it funny. Yes, he seemed a tad bitter and high strung, but I think that as a comic you could have shown him a little deference. Lazily labeling him as a racist and homophobe based on some flimsy tertiary anecdotes (while not actually doing the research) was very douche-nozzle. It would be akin to labeling you a pedophile/statutory rapist based on that one (hillarious) joke of yours of fucking sixteen year olds. I expected better.
  • three and a half years ago
    ziggy
    >>Would've been neat to hear Gallagher dig his own hole, as opposed to Marc having a prepared hole for him to fight his way out of from the jump.

    I agree.

    He's a nut but it would have been a much better interview if Marc had stepped back and just talked to him like he did Mencia. Let him explain himself and have the confidence to let the audience judge the result.
  • three and a half years ago
    JW
    Compare and contrast the Maron before and after the Gallagher interview with the Maron on the Carolla podcast discussing the interview. They seem like two different people. On his own podcast, Maron expressed significant remorse on how he conducted the interview. But there was certainly no mention of that on the Carolla podcast, where Maron was chomping at the bit to portray Gallagher's behavior as nothing but jerk-like, with no mention of the remorse he expressed on his own podcast about his performance as an interviewer. Neither Gallagher nor Maron came off well to me. There were many times during the shouting that Maron could and should have dialed things down in order to have a reasonable discussion. But as Maron himself said in his comments before the interview, his level rose to meet Gallagher's level, which just resulted in two idiots screaming at each other. I've heard Maron do good interviews. This was not one of them.

    By the way, on the specific subject of the alleged homophobic and racist jokes, I would wager on Carolla being on Gallagher's side. I can hardly imagine Carolla saying something like, "Why do you have to do jokes that hurt people's feelings?" (paraphrase)
  • three and a half years ago
    Owen
    Electrons, Electrons, Electrons, I'M A COMEDIAN! Pffft.

    You both at some point both became equally antagonistic to each other, but Gallagher seemed like a Sunday morning TV evangelist. I just hear him hiding behind the title of being "a comic" that justifies his loose tongue. He is pretty immature, going as low to the point of mocking you in a childish tone.

    I'm sure he is a great guy though; under another situation.

    Also at JohnH, Marc has no idea who you are either nor will care about your narrow minded view on comedy.
  • three and a half years ago
    daniel
    You should have had some watermelons for Gallagher to smash and channel his aggression..
    Make sure he's not waiting for you with the hammer ...at night....
  • three and a half years ago
    JohnH
    I have no idea who you are Marc. I just heard you on the Carolla podcast and came here to listen to the Gallagher interview. You are an angry, unfunny, no-talent ass.

    Comedians make fun of everybody and everything. You do not know that and that is why you will never go anywhere in comedy.
  • three and a half years ago
    Gabor
    A couple of observations about the Gallagher interview:

    If you are going to attack someone based on their material, I feel that you should first do your homework and be familiar with the material in question. As much as it pains me to say, Gallagher was right to take issue with the fact that your criticism was based on second-hand information.

    I also found it frustrating that on the few occasions that Gallagher raised some genuinely interesting points, they were mostly ignored. For example, I would have loved some followup to the idea that the sledgehammer bit started out as a piece of satire on consumer culture, only to later become the only idiotic shtick he is known for.

    On another note, how is it OK to make fun of the ignorance of, say, people who don't understand evolution or global warming, while being ignorant of even more fundamental scienticic facts (such as the difference between a photon and an electron)? This is not meant as a personal attack as much as commentary on how ignorance of basic science has become socially acceptable except on a few politically charged topics.

  • three and a half years ago
    Matt
    Gotta side with Gallagher on this one. He makes a living making people laugh. If a joke gets laughs, you keep telling it. Simple as that. Sounded like you had an agenda to bash him going into this interview. Still love your interviews, though. Keep them coming.
  • three and a half years ago
    Lee Stringer
    Do all comedians turn bitter when they get old? Seriously. I know stand-up stems from anger, but the only old comedian I've ever heard in an interview that seemed mellowed out was Dangerfield, but that was probably because he was successful later in his career. Is it the obvious answer - that they're on the other side of their career and they just can't take it? Is it because writing jokes all your life simply sucks the humour out of everything? Would they have been cranky old men even if they hadn't become famous, or has the fame made it worse in the end? Just promise me Mark, you won't be one of those cranky old codgers telling some young interviewer that the new gang just don't know comedy. Fuck, it's depressing.

    By the way, I saw you on Conan and that's how I found out about this. I LOVE your podcast, man. I'm at the point with talk shows like Conan that when it comes time for the meaningless banter in the second half I reach for the remote. For some reason with you I didn't. That must be a good sign. Your "getting dressed while running through a time machine" was hilarious. Anyhew, your interviews at WTF are fascinating and insightful. I actually feel as if I come away from them having learned something. I don't know if it's because these guys just feel that perhaps a lot of people aren't listening (no offense, just a theory), or that you really can draw out personal details from your guests that they dont reveal on other shows.

    One thing I enjoy about listening to two comedians chatting is that there's no attempt at bullshit. It's like you both know that the other is going to call it as soon as he senses it, or poke fun at it, so everything is just laid on the line. But as we saw with Gallager (no fuckin clue how to spell that) it doesn't always end well. Personally, even though I agreed with you, I think you needled him a bit too long with the homophobic questions. Once you reduced him to choked silence, which you did at one point, you should have moved on. With that said, it didn`t seem as if the conversation was heated enough for him to walk off. That was lame.

    Anyway, I`ve drolled on too long here. Great podcast. All the best.
  • three and a half years ago
    Terry1
    I think "fuck that guy" isn't what Marc wanted anyone to bring away from it and in any case it is not a lesson worth learning.
  • three and a half years ago
    Sifive
    These "street jokes" - as Gallagher dubs them - are not his material and, if they are giving him all this negative press, just cut them. Literally he says he has 5 jokes that he doesn't even tell every show. So if they are such as small part of his act as he claims, it's not like it's a huge deal to stop telling them then. Although he seems to make it ambiguous whether he agrees with the statements those jokes make or not. Marc gives him lots of opportunities to say he doesn't as well. I can understand Marc's frustration with him in the interview, but I felt he went a little over the top by the end.
  • three and a half years ago
    Katie
    Marc, I thought under the circumstances you held onto a lot more patience and maintained the presence of mind to try keeping good humor as best you could. Attempting to have conversations with someone displaying disorganized, troubled thinking is really difficult, and certainly it's very challenging to keep a sense of detached perspective when that person is right there in front of your face. I appreciated your attempts to keep things light but still conversational, even if those attempts didn't succeed towards the end there.

    He seemed really intent on making sure you understood how "right" he was, and it seemed like his way of deciding he was understood was to cajole you into agreeing with his "rightness." I don't blame you for exhibiting a very human anxiety when he tried to make you complicit in his opinions.
  • three and a half years ago
    Felipe
    What a lunatic...!
  • three and a half years ago
    Darren
    "Aww c'mon Gallagher"
    -Maron
  • three and a half years ago
    MD
    I don't think Marc was saying that stereotypes are off-limits. In fact, he said he could see where some stereotypes come from. What Marc is against is BAD COMEDY. Gallagher's not funny because all he does is recycle and reinforce lazy stereotypes that are designed to limit and belittle people: Jews are cheap, gays are icky, lesbians wear leather. Gallagher has no perspective. None. His "jokes" about homosexuals and Jews and Mexicans and Arabs have nothing to say about those stereotypes except "Here's a stereotype you'll laugh at!" It's tired, racist, familiar crap with no twist on any of it.

    Check out Gallagher's Twitter feed (@realgallagher) and see how often he calls things "faggy." There's no thought behind his jokes, no twist, no irony, nothing except mindless offensive slurs for things he doesn't like. He's bitter because his schtick-based comedy went out with Hammer pants and the world has left him behind.
  • three and a half years ago
    Brad in Ohio
    "They're not interested in your long, subtle stories."
  • three and a half years ago
    tbx59
    There's a difference between busting balls and being a bigot. I wish there were examples of the Gallagher jokes so we could decide. But, someone like Rickles is like being in a locker room and making fun of a teamate, someone like Zach greek last name can use bullying, bigoted humor ironically, some like Artie Lange can use a broad or fag comment as a stand-up charachter or because it's funny, etc and some are just hateful. Stereotypes and what not can be funny, and often are when used by someone with talent - it comes down to intent, sadly, we didn't get a chance to find out since we didn't get examples, and Gallagher went with the great defense that he doesn't write his jokes and that he percieves certain parts of the country to be bigots so you gotta bust out the bigoted material.
  • three and a half years ago
    Dorothy
    Wow Marc. Way to seem desperate for attention. Michael Moore has taught you well.
  • three and a half years ago
    Keith
    So Gallagher has two stents in his chest. I can't imagine why.
  • three and a half years ago
    Roy Zornow
    Marc I was with you in the beginning: Gallagher did sound like a grandiose crank. But you lost me when you started arguing that stereotypes were off-limits in comedy. Would you take that approach with Don Rickles or Joan Rivers? My theory is that you went after Gallagher because he scared you as some possible future version of yourself, should things not go well.
  • three and a half years ago
    Ben
    Best part of the PodCast - 51:19 "Alright. Well . . . that didn't- well maybe it went really well."

    Second best - 40:01 "I understand gays better than I do Arabs." Are you trying to tell us something Gallagher?

    Gallagher seemed to touch a nerve when he said "Comedy is not thearpy." Otherwise he sounds like he is slightly losing he mind. Of course I would go a little loony if my own brother was pretending to be me and making money off of it. Pretty sad.
  • three and a half years ago
    Tim
    On Joe Rogan's(should have him on the show) podcast, joes comedian sidekick Redban stated that at The Comedy Store Gallagher rudely kept making fun of a guy with MS, and no one was laughing and he was making everyone uncomfortable. Fuck that guy! Sorry Mark, can't listen to this one. Much <3 though.
  • three and a half years ago
    Matt
    more evidence
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAfhm0F-594
  • three and a half years ago
    Matt
    Dear Marc,
    In light of your great interview I feel I should share this with you
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9a5fOYe7rA
    behold our nihilistic future
  • three and a half years ago
    Nick Lak
    I got Teen Age Muntant Ninja Turtles rights. The old gallygags might know a thing or two about a thing or two...especially making these kids smarter with my cancer cartoons. What a fucking shit head.
  • three and a half years ago
    Nate
    You'll never work the state fair circuit with that attitude, Marc.
  • three and a half years ago
    Brendan
    I know if I was a comedian my ultimate goal would be performing at a state fair.
  • three and a half years ago
    Ben Frenlin
    "This interview illuminated Gallagher's unwillingness to self-examine. In every interview I've listened to the guest seems well aware of their faults and the effect they might have on other. Gallager was totally unable to accept his faults. Great interview Marc gave perspective on where gay and racially insensitive jokes come from. " - Clare



    My thoughts exactly.
  • three and a half years ago
    Estrangled
    I just finished listening to the interview, and I have to say that was one of the most awkward interviews I've listened to in my life. As this went on, I really feel like Gallagher felt attacked; not saying he was right or you were right, but I felt bad for him in the way I felt bad for Charlton Heston in that 'Bowling For Columbine' movie. I think he felt pretty blindsided, and you weren't giving him any quarter, so he was probably more of a piece of shit than he would have been. To some extent, I even agreed with him on some of the things he was saying regarding where you can and can't tell certain types of jokes. While I never think hate should be promoted, it's his choice to tell a terribly tasteless joke that, to someone in San Francisco, would be completely unacceptable, but to someone in Dallas, would just be funny. Having said all of that, I don't think Gallagher is correct or funny, but I think he has the right to make fun of me as much as I have the right to make fun of him. And so do you.
  • three and a half years ago
    freelancer
    @GallagherFan.

    Wow, dude. Just wow. I could go off, but it's already sad enough.
  • three and a half years ago
    Max
    "Oh, come on, Gallagher" has to be one of those lines you never expect to say in your life.

    I thought your opening bit to this podcast was really perceptive. The Gallagher interview itself didn't shed much light on the bigger questions, or on the subject himself - except that he sounds extremely old and extremely under-informed, like my grandfather. Did he look particularly haggard?

    Also, it was only a few seconds, but he definitely does not understand cell phone radiation, and I have a very hard time imagining he has met with any physics departments in any technical capacity. Cell phones emit low-level microwave radiation that doesn't damage DNA in any way.
  • three and a half years ago
    GallagherFan
    I am confused. What did you expect to happen when you start a line of questioning with "So what about all the racist, right wing stuff you do in your act?" (paraphrasing)

    How about some respect for a guy who the #1 comedian in America for over a decade? How about some respect for someone who reached heights none of us will ever reach? How about some respect for a guy STILL out there making more than many of us combined?

    SOMEONE is buying tickets to his show. Many, many someones in fact - including me.

    I understand what Marc wanted to say and do. But he worded it in a way that was accusing him of being homophobic and right wing, instead of taking point with individual jokes.

    Mr. Maron, how many hour-long tv specials do you have? How many millions have you made with your comedy?

    Is he the same Gallagher from 30 years ago? I would hope not. Are we the same?

    Perspective, respect and admiration....no?
  • three and a half years ago
    tbx59
    After listening to Carolla this morning, I was dying for this WTf and it was even better than Maron mentioned (ps thought Maron was good on carolla even though they are pretty much wildly different). This was just as compelling as the Mencia episodes. I'm not sure i've laughed as hard as a couple of the delusional responses from Gallagher.
    Who the fuck wants to play state fairs?
    -everyone.
  • three and a half years ago
    freelancer
    is the guy, that you mention at the top of the show, who you reached out to, perhaps Jon Stewart?

    My instinct said Sandler, but Stewart would also make sense.

    That's too bad, Marc, but don't let it get you down.
  • three and a half years ago
    Noah Brock
    Fuck Gallager, that voice was almost unbearable. You handled it like a champ Marc, I wouldn't have been so kind.
  • three and a half years ago
    Clare
    This interview illuminated Gallagher's unwillingness to self-examine. In every interview I've listened to the guest seems well aware of their faults and the effect they might have on other. Gallager was totally unable to accept his faults. Great interview Marc gave perspective on where gay and racially insensitive jokes come from.
  • three and a half years ago
    fanta
    Okay. I must be, like, 30 years older than your average viewer - I'm about ten years older than you; and I didn't hear what the majority of posters so far are describing, an insane or angry guy. I heard a hurt guy. An aggrieved, defensive guy. Not to say hurt, offended people can't be assholes but he's not crazy. First off he's from another generation doing the same kind of material everybody did in nightclubs way back when and he's bitter that tastes have changed. He doesn't know you or your style, didn't know where you were coming from and he got defensive. You paid Robin Williams more deference and respect, he got none. Nothing. You talked like he knew his act is outdated - that's cold. You wouldn't accept his explanation for his choice of material, you were determined to extract a confession. That's how it sounded to me. He was a jerk. YOU were a jerk. But the biggest jerk is his manager or whoever who threw the two of you together without any regard for either of you. Let's get HIM on the show and you can interrogate him.
  • three and a half years ago
    Rick
    Phew, man. Gallagher is exactly that bitter, old uncle that you probably have
  • three and a half years ago
    max
    great show, very tense. I did laugh pretty hard though when Marc said "Who the fuck wants to work a state fair?"
  • three and a half years ago
    ~Tiffany
    maybe you can book his brother next
  • three and a half years ago
    Crate&Trauma
    "Awwww come on Gallagher..."

    LMAO
  • three and a half years ago
    ~Tiffany
    today's quotes for fb:

    "Free food is always fun food"

    "Forgiveness is fucking hard"

    <3
  • three and a half years ago
    Gary in B'Ham
    Who/what is a Gallagher?
  • three and a half years ago
    Steve Guy
    Gallagher is lost on an ego trip inside a time warp. At least he's got that chip on his shoulder to keep him company.
  • three and a half years ago
    Monkey Cat
    Wow, you really went out of your way to piss him off. I'm amazed he took your shit for as long as he did. The interview seemed to be going fine until you turned on him like an animal.
    You gonna kick Pat Cooper in the balls next?
  • three and a half years ago
    Randy
    congratulations?
  • three and a half years ago
    Joe
    Any guesses for the mystery guest that won't do the show? Adam Sandler???
  • three and a half years ago
    Adam
    "Gallagher, come back!"
  • three and a half years ago
    Scott
    Not for nothing, but I always thought Gallagher WAS gay (not intended as a slur). Sometimes he just comes off a little feminine...no biggie. Aside from that, he sounds like a bitter, confused little man.
  • three and a half years ago
    Space Docker
    Gallagher sounded like he was on pills or something. I get that way when I drink on Xanax.
  • three and a half years ago
    Joshua P
    "You're going to think what you're going to think." Wise words, Marc.

    Here's what I think: Gallagher's a fucking asshole. To me, it sounded like he came in with more than one chip on his shoulder, and when you addressed them honestly, he got progressively more condescending to you.

    Of course, I'll admit my bias for you, Marc, but man, does this put a portion of my childhood in new perspective. Just like Ray Stevens all over again.

    Love ya, Marc.
  • three and a half years ago
    Justin
    Oddly enough, made a video with a Gallagher ending. Had I known he laughed like Charles Manson and/or a maniac, I never would have done it.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31JybfT97Us
  • three and a half years ago
    DickM
    That was a GREAT interview !! I agree with you that it was actually a really good discussion. Although I understand why he walked out - but I don't think it was anyome's fault.

    I would have thought Marc could have calmed him down by telling him that if he's so bitter that he's not as big anymore at least at one time he was "Gallagher" and was a pretty big thing, during all that Marc has been working along all this time making a living but without the BIG hit (yet)... and he's seems to accept that it's ok - just part of the business. So to get snappy with Marc might be barking up the wrong tree (so to speak).

    I'd REALLY like to see a rematch here and I bet that if you can convince him to come back it would be much calmer and with a happier ending (well hopefully not that kind of happy ending but you know what I mean :-) )..

    I'd hate to see this be the end of the discussion with Gallagher,

    Good work again Marc.
    Dick
  • three and a half years ago
    ThunderMonkey
    I'm just 30 minutes into the podcast... Gallagher sounds like a bitter ass.
  • three and a half years ago
    Kristen
    You really held your own there Marc.
    Too bad Gallagher sounds like he's completely disconnected with reality.

    Great interview...wow.
  • three and a half years ago
    Chris K.
    That was a great interview. I think it went about as well as anyone could expect. Thanks for posting this, Mark.

    You asked, "What is to be brought away from this?" For me, it's the impression that Gallagher is a washed-up douchebag with an over-developed sense of self-entitlement. He feels like the world owes him something. Fuck that guy.
  • three and a half years ago
    Foe
    Although Gallagher has turned into a hack, I don't necessarily think this was the best interview Marc has done. While I agree with nearly all of Marc's points, they were presented in a way that was a little overly antagonistic towards the guest. I'm kind of torn, because while I love Marc's viewpoints and opinions, I would have also loved to have learned more about why the fuck Gallagher is what he is now, and why he transformed from a pretty clever wordplay artist to whatever it is he would describe himself as now. I guess my point is this, and I may be alone: Would've been neat to hear Gallagher dig his own hole, as opposed to Marc having a prepared hole for him to fight his way out of from the jump. Either way, still entertaining, and still the only "appointment" podcast in my queue.
  • three and a half years ago
    chuck
    hey mark just listened to the Gallagher cast. going back to what you said at the beginning of the show you were aggressive but you have been aggressive before with people ok, and he became thin skinned because he took what you were saying about the articles of him being racist as if it were your opinion and it came across a litte bit that way but listening to your casts i know what you were doing. honestly what i heard was two people saying the same things from their own perspective and getting bent out of shape because the perspectives were different. his ideas about comedy are playing to the audience and pleasing them whoever they are, and your ideas are doing your act and if they like it they like it if not you were true to yourself. two different approaches two different beliefs two different philosophies it ran out of control on both sides I say tie 50/50 you should call this one two angry men in a hotel room.
  • three and a half years ago
    Ryan LaBee
    Wow this was great. You really let him fly his crazy flag. I never really did like Gallagher but my god...that man is fucking insane and very stuck on himself. You did nothing wrong Marc you were a great interviewer, this guy just wanted to talk about himself and not answer some real questions.
  • three and a half years ago
    piu
    22 minutes in. Did you take you up on the drink offer?
  • three and a half years ago
    jamison
    is the guy, that you mention at the top of the show, who you reached out to, perhaps Jon Stewart?
  • three and a half years ago
    Marc Shmarc
    Wow, Gallagher is the most defensive comedian I've ever heard, his id was spilling out all over the place. He was in constant attack mode. I can't imagine trying to interview somebody like that.
  • three and a half years ago
    Jafafa Hots
    Man, I remember months back posting a link to his racist stuff, the discussion that ensued and your response to someone's suggestion that you get him as a guest... and damned if you didn't go ahead and do it! And (it seems) you took it to him.

    Fan fucking tastic. Awesome. You rock, Marc.
  • three and a half years ago
    Andrew
    I think that for Gallagher, it was a case of walk out or end up saying things he'd really regret.

    Good work Marc.
  • three and a half years ago
    Rebekah Hunt
    You were right, but you weren't too hard on him. He made the conversation impossible with contrary statements and extreme reactions that seemed to be only vaguely related to what was going on. It sounds like he only heard every fifth word you said. And he yelled a lot. You came off like the sane adult. That guy is a buffoon.
  • three and a half years ago
    Jaz
    Oh wow, Gallagher, this is going to be different...
  • three and a half years ago
    Rebekah Hunt
    Oh man.