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Dec 6, 2010 58

Janeane Garofalo returns to the show for a heart-to-heart with Marc about their shared beliefs and why those beliefs tend to get them into trouble. Also, a sample of Mike DeStefano from a recent Live WTF to help prepare you for full-on Mike coming up in Episode 130. Plus, Marc contemplates a new career strategy.

58 Comments
  • three and a half years ago
    Cat_Admirer
    >>> It's nice to have a break from ironic detachment.

    I agree with this isolated statement, apart from everything else that you said. But who is it that promulgates ironic detachment? Well, just for a start, nearly every other guest who has ever been on WTF, and the better part of the contemporary "funny" business -- including most of those who think they trade in truth-telling. In fact, the figure that Janeane herself cuts on stage, her tone of voice, her general comic presentation, all evoke this modern detachment.

    My only point, then, is that you are finding relief from the comedy in Marc's podcast and (in my view) from Janeane's act when not in lecture mode. And please note that saying Janeane lectures her audience (that is, makes her points without concern that they also be amusing) is not the same as being sexist. The same description holds for Bill Maher and the more recent work of Chris Rock, just for instance.
  • three and a half years ago
    Margie
    I usually don't post bother with these forums because they're frequented by too many chimps just throwing their own feces at each other. This time, because I can't believe that even some WTF listeners could be so stupid as to bash Janeane Garafalo I felt duty to bound to throw them back. What the fuck is wrong with you people?

    I loved the show with Janeane Garafalo. Stuck in backwards land, it's a relief to hear some who gets it speak with eloquence and passion. It's nice to have a break from ironic detachment. Yeah, I'm gonna get slammed here but I don't give a fuck.

    I'm fairly convinced that a man espousing the same point of view with the same level of anger would not be pummeled on a forum the way Janeane has been here. Marc's had plenty of angry guys on his show before. Why the shock over Garafalo's anger? Though, I didn't find her to be so angry.

    One poster accused JG of cutting of Marc. So what? Based on my recollection, Marc and Janeane cut each other off on numerous occasions. People do that in conversation. Before leveling this criticism at JG, I'd like to see a ratio.

    As to the posters complaining about Janeane being angry or unbalanced: So what if she was? If you're not angry about what's going on this country with in this country with the bailout fuckover, unemployment, the erroding infrastructure, corporate domination--why bother to go on, hopefully by now you've grapsed what I'm talking about--you're in an intellectual coma and need to stop watching "reality" tv. Any woman who doesn't speak softly and suck a big dick tends to freak the fuck out of you so you bash her. Very original, very skillful. Thanks for the same shit different day nonsense.
  • three and a half years ago
    Spocko
    Janeane Garofalo is one of heroes as well. This was a great pod cast Marc. Thank you and thank Janeane.
  • three and a half years ago
    CTD
    Well, let's put aside the bile, and answer a different question: What do you think Janeane's funniest joke/line was this episode?
  • three and a half years ago
    Owen
    Great to hear Janeane on the show again Marc.

    She has brought out the right wingers in the comments as we can see.

    A smart, independent woman who demands her right to speak is right up there amongst the right's fears.
  • almost four years ago
    Jimmy G
    I love how even when Marc was agreed with her views she cut him off and repeated the same 4 sentences over and over. Geesh. I don't even disagree with what she was saying but calm down a little man.

    Never shut off an episode half way through. Until now.
  • almost four years ago
    Mikey
    Janeane is great. She is telling the truth that people often don't want to know.

    She asks the hard questions that will make us a better society. I think Jon Stewart nowaday is trying too hard to split things in the middle. This is not always possible - status quo is way to the right

    Also, she's a great comedian.
  • almost four years ago
    Brett
    I can't stand the Tea Party yet JG just comes off way too angry, and self rightous. Like all the wrongs have happened to her personally. She is just oppressive with her self appointed role of what is right and wrong is just too much. I agree with most of her politics and even I was put off by tone of lecture and indignation. I applaud Marc's ability to be constantly interrupted and corrected by JG...ugg! JG says she is optimistic but she comes off like she dismisses 95% of her fellow man as either evil, corrupt, lazy or stupid. Her calling people a "fucking coward" that disagree with her exposes her intolerant perspective toward her fellow man. I would say JG needs to NOT change her politics but to take a big drink of humility and stop being so caustic in her judgement of her fellow person and take a little more time to understand their struggles and their own limitations. At one point she says she doesn't want to come off "being noble" and yet many times that is what are doing and assuming that other people don't feel pain like her.
  • almost four years ago
    Brandon
    I love this show and Marc. Have listened to everyone. But Garofalo.... If I heard one more comment about the fact we have a black president and its soo great or how racist everyone is that aren't democrats or how women are marginalized. The reason she loses jobs or her standup fails is not because of her politics or that shes a woman, its because shes an asshole. I have never sat and listened to a more miserable or angry person in my life. Marc gets his politics and views across in ALOT better way and is enjoyable to listen to. This woman is an awful person. Sorry, that was judgmental. But damn. How she hasn't wrapped her lips around a gun and eaten a bullet yet amazes me. Sorry Marc.
  • almost four years ago
    moodster
    I wonder who Janeane was referring to as the friends who don't put her in their movies anymore. Ben Stiller?
  • almost four years ago
    Lawrence Schemelia
    I bought Janeane's new "If You Will" cd after listening to this episode, and I'm compelled to agree with Marc's assertions that she's funnier than ever. Like Marc, she holds to some strong opinions and beliefs, but is always willing to scrutinize & question herself to great comedic effect. Thanks for having her on!
  • almost four years ago
    Tom
    "Sexism is as woven into the fabric of hollywood as racism is woven into the grand old party." - progressiveutopianwithasenseofhumor

    That may be one of the dumber things I have ever read as Democrats wanted slavery & Republicans abolished it. Historically, The Democratic party was filled with slave owners and rampant racists. You have to go to FDR to get what would be comparable to a modern Democrat. Try reading a history book & not conspiracy theories.

    There are racist elements in EVERYTHING! Literally every organization that has ever existed has had at least one racist in there. The problem is that the racists tend to take away from things as a whole. BTW, the tea party people were active during Bush's last two years in office. Where were you that you didn't know that? A lot of the more vitriolic members of the tea party became vocal after Fox News put their stamp of approval on it. This in turn led to a lot more people of all races turning away from the party as a whole. Its funny, when Bush was in office people were for paying less taxes in the same economy. Now you are a racist if you think that taxes are too high. There is no law saying that you can't voluntarily give more money in taxes to the government than you owe. So if you have extra cash or happen to be rich and are concerned with the economy, go ahead. Warren Buffet & Bill Gates can be first, they are after all the biggest whiners about tax cuts.
  • almost four years ago
    progressiveutopianwithasenseofhumor
    Look, I don't think that Janeane was saying that every bagger is a racist but there is a disproportionate number of racists in the tea party. On a deeper level, I believe that she correctly believes that much of what they promote is a continution of the southern stragedy and their agenda would strengthen institutional racism. As for women and hollywood. There has always been a double standard in hollywood. Sexism is as woven into the fabric of hollywood as racism is woven into the grand old party.
  • almost four years ago
    Christopher
    skip to the funny and entertaining part which starts @ 58:25
  • almost four years ago
    ziggy
    >>at no point in their discussion did Janeane say anything remotely like "what I believe is TRUE and RIGHT and everyone who disagrees with me is EVIL." She's just giving her opinion

    No. You must have been too busy drinking the kool-aid to hear it, she said it many times in many ways.

    >>>But whatever, guess I'm just a Garofalo apologist.

    Apparently. (But I think she's usually funny too.)

    The Mike D. part was one of the best bits in the entire podcast series to date. Had never heard of him before, thanks! Now he was funny!
  • almost four years ago
    Chad
    I like Janeane as a comedian and actress. And her and I share the same political beliefs. But I still can't stand to listen to her talk about politics. Everything she says is laced with so much vitriol that I cringe. In stark contrast with Maron, who talks about politics in a heartfelt, humanistic manner.
  • almost four years ago
    progressiveutopianwithasenseofhumor
    How ironic that people on here criticize Janeane for the same type of broad-brush statements that were Marc's trademark on Air America. So WTF? Tea party defenders on Marc's message board? What is this? How'd they get in? Is this a bad acid trip? A segment of Hartmann's "everything you know is wrong"? Some of the conservative callers who used to call in to disagree with Marc & Mark looking for revenge? Then I got the joke. You guys are trying out for a new Lawton Small's type character bit. All of the conservativism was just a ruse. You guys actually are fellow morning seditionists. You "love your news so slanted to the left that it's wearing a dress", as the Morning Sedition bit went, just like the rest of us.
  • almost four years ago
    rb
    It seems to me that she has been really focused on this tea party issue above and beyond just pointing out what she considers a fact. I personally like comedians talking about politics, but I wish she would focus on other issues, too. Or expand the discussion about race issues beyond the scope of one seemingly artificial movement.
  • almost four years ago
    danner
    "Now that I've heard her say that explicitly, I'm amazed that anyone would defend her. Disagreement is great, but to just smear the movement while refusing to engage with the overt Tea Party message (cut spending) is irresponsible, insulting, and sad."

    I agree with this. As a guy who voted for Obama, I find the whole "The tea party is racist!" matra to be a really lazy generalization. It's a neat way to dismiss the opposition without actually answering the issue. I'm pretty sure there would be just as much vitriol being slung around with a white democrat in office. Yes, any anti-Obama movement is going to attract some racist lunkheads to cling on, but I seriously doubt the sole purpose behind the tea party is "we don't like black people."
  • almost four years ago
    progressiveutopianwithasenseofhumor
    Barry, sounds like you are into teabagging yourself. The tea party plays upon the fears of the white working class just the way Richard Nixon did with the southern stragedy. It's the stragedy of ruling through fear and division by the ruling class. Racism is alive and well in America, but entitled white conservatives refuse to see it. They are so thin-skinned that they get overly defensive if anyone points it out as Janeane did. As for latte, I never tried one, don't dig yuppie commercial capitalist trappings.
  • almost four years ago
    ThunderMonkey
    @barry Soetero "There are thousands of black tea party members. Get your head out of your soy latte"

    Black Tea? What about Green Tea?

    All kidding aside... there were hundreds of thousands of blacks in Mississippi during the Civil Rights movement, that didn't make some of the citizens of Mississippi any less racist. Granted, perhaps it is folly to label all of the Tea Party as being racist, but there certainly are some racist members in the group that are very loud. Instead, of getting rid of some of those, the Tea Party, just tells everyone "Quit picking on us".

    @Barry Soetero: "Being called a racist means winning an argument with a liberal."

    It's nice to see that you're reclaiming the word "racist" to mean something nice for you.
  • almost four years ago
    barry Soetero
    "the tea party is indefensible. It's racism has been so well documented that it's not even up for debate."

    It's the attitude above which is why people hate liberals. You're not allowed to think unless you agree with them.

    There are thousands of black tea party members. Get your head out of your soy latte

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38558455/ns/politics-more_politics/
  • almost four years ago
    Barry Soetero
    She's insufferable. It's not her politics, it's her attitude. Hate and more hate.

    Being called a racist means winning an argument with a liberal.

    The Tea Party won in November, and her career continues to founder -- probably because all the nice Democrats in Hollywood can't stand her rudeness.
  • almost four years ago
    progressiveutopianwithasenseofhumor
    CTD, the tea party is indefensible. It's racism has been so well documented that it's not even up for debate. The bigger issue is the tea party's broader agenda. It has been bought & paid for by the same ultra rich, ultra conservatives who long to return this country to the guilded age. Look to the third world and you'll find countless examples of faux populist counter-revolutionary movements sporsored by the oligarchs in conjunction with the CIA, IMF & multinational corporations, promoting false consciousness to the ignorant masses to push back when any degree of progressive change has been acheived. Cut spending? Where was the tea party when shrub created the majority of this deficit with his illegal, immoral wars. Where where they when that senile old goat, Ronald Reagan began to run up both the federal and trade deficits? Why would anyone suggest cutting spending in the middle of a very fragile recovery? Only those trying to bring down current administration.
  • almost four years ago
    progressiveutopianwithasenseofhumor
    I'm in love with Janeane. So smart, brave, well-informed, sensitive and spot-on with her observations. She deserves more support for having the ovaries to speak truth in this age. It's really sad that these fascists persecute her. F'ing teabaggin freaks as Malloy calls them. Ah, the glory days of Air America.
  • almost four years ago
    CTD
    While listening, I was idly reading the comments wondering, "Wow, what did she say that got people so riled up?". I thought she had just _implied_ that the Tea Party was all about racism.

    Now that I've heard her say that explicitly, I'm amazed that anyone would defend her. Disagreement is great, but to just smear the movement while refusing to engage with the overt Tea Party message (cut spending) is irresponsible, insulting, and sad.

    30 Rock had a great satire of the Tea Party a couple of episodes back, and no one got fired. Why? My theory: a) It dug at the Tea Party's real weak spots (kooky, unfocused), rather than tilting at windmills, and far more importantly b) it was funny.

    Janeane's theory would evidently be c) that Tina Fey is not a woman.
  • almost four years ago
    tim

    i've listened to about a third of the wtf pods and it was the first interview i just couldn't get through. which i was surprised by, because i'm a democrat and think that she is more or less right about the tea party. i think i'm just turned off by the self-righteousness. she's more of a female michael moore than a comedian at this point.
  • almost four years ago
    Gabriel B
    Janeane is my hero.
  • almost four years ago
    daniel
    Jeanine.. don't forget we live in Zombieland....
    If they dont like you in Aspen.... makes sense..
    If they didn't love you in Brooklyn or SF then you should worry..
    Love from Miami anyway!!

  • almost four years ago
    Jason P.
    I miss the days of the Majority Report on Air America. This interview certainly made me nostalgic for those early days of AAR. I enjoyed this interview and I've listened to it several times. I'm not sure where all the negativity towards Janeane Garofalo comes from because, as can clearly be heard in this interview, she is a brave and sensitive woman.
  • almost four years ago
    Cat_Admirer
    Well, @Steven_Doyle, that's sorta the problem. It's very hard if not impossible to refute the blanket charge of racism. Thank goodness it's all so clear to Janeane and Co., her stomach doesn't have to churn over making such a toxic assertion.

    If anyone wants to amuse themselves, pull up the older WTF with her (if it's still available) in which she troubles herself over what precisely qualifies as an "intellectual." Would that she demonstrated even an ounce -- an ounce -- of this same humility in prosecuting her war for social justice.

    She prefers the reductio ad Hitlerum, and it is this that clouds her career, one strongly suspects, and not simply her "politics."
  • almost four years ago
    Mrfilter
    God damn the internet pounces on any chance to argue over liberal politics. Janeane was interesting but her sense of self deprecation is exhausting.

    Mike d was fucking hilarious! Never watched last comic standing but holy shit this guy is great. Can't wait for next week.

    Best episode in a while.
  • almost four years ago
    MichaelPatrickG
    Brendan, thanks for your work. If I forget to write "merry christmas" to you between now and December 25, merry christmas, dude. I hope that you are well.

    Now, onto my comment...
    I am beyond tired of Janeane's woe-is-me-I'm-a-woman thing. As I listened to her 5(?) separate whines about the public's expectations for women as opposed to men I realized that I believe that when Sarah Silverman was interviewed for WTF she didn't mention even once that she thought she was being marginalized for being a woman-- and she would HAVE A MUCH BETTER CASE for saying such a thing because 1) she is MUCH more comedically talented than Janeane and 2) lately, since her show was canceled, I've heard and read many GENUINELY SEXIST (not speculative Janeane bullshit) comments from guys who insist that the cancelation proves that women aren't funny.

    Please, Garofolo.... I felt like I was playing a psychologist as I listened to this episode. I didn't feel like I was an audience member.
  • almost four years ago
    Conway
    She seems really sad. You kinda just want to hug her.
  • almost four years ago
    Lane
    fuck janeane for bashing people who say they are optimistic. being a cynical bleeding heart liberal is just as spineless. that was simply annoying as fuck. good thing the comedy at the end saved the thing.
  • almost four years ago
    Anna D.
    Maybe I misheard, but at no point in their discussion did Janeane say anything remotely like "what I believe is TRUE and RIGHT and everyone who disagrees with me is EVIL." She's just giving her opinion, because Marc asked. I don't understand why people aren't allowed to have strong opinions about something as important as politics without other people thinking these opinions are being forced down their throats. It IS our civic duty to have an opinion and to care about this stuff, and if she can't talk about it with her friend on his podcast, where the fuck can she? But whatever, guess I'm just a Garofalo apologist.

    Great episode Marc, keep it up.
  • almost four years ago
    Steven Doyle
    Jojo -- so why weren't the Teabaggers protesting Gitmo eight years ago, since they're so concerned about "freedoms"?

    Remarkable how many people seem happy to attack Janeane Garofalo without actually refuting anything she says. Bags of hot air.
  • almost four years ago
    Steven Doyle
    Janeane thinks her voice is annoying? Guess she hasn't met my ex-wife. Good show.
  • almost four years ago
    eddie
    love Janeane too much, and Mike D KILLED IT! Can't wait for his show.
  • almost four years ago
    Steven
    Janeane was great as expected. Sucks that she is getting such grief from the entertainment industry. I'm going to have to watch that new show of hers and try to keep it on for a few seasons so she can keep getting a good paycheck. She deserves it.

    Got my new WTF scream shirt yesterday - love it! I've got them all but the Nerd Cock shirt and I'm afraid I've missed the boat on that one. Oh well. Thanks for all the funny!
  • almost four years ago
    Brendan
    Please feel free to disagree with your fellow commentors, but refrain from calling them morons and idiots because they don't share your beliefs.

    Play nice or take it to the Aint It Cool News talkbacks.
  • almost four years ago
    Joe
    Tax breaks for the rich, Wall Street bailouts, Guantanamo Bay open, expanded war in Afganistan, Don't Ask still policy, opposes gay marriage, no public option in health care, homophobe Rick Warran speaks at inaguration, attacks Rhode Island teachers -- all with a fillabuster proof majority . . . vote Obama.
  • almost four years ago
    Mr. Marin
    Is it just me or does Janeane makes a lot of sense? God damn, I'm so in love with her.
  • almost four years ago
    Joe Tily
    always loved Janeane . . . great show Marc.
  • almost four years ago
    ziggy
    I've always thought she was funny but she clearly has serious problems and in this case anyway was definitely strident and annoying (and not funny), as she fears. I almost shut it off after a while.

    She sounds exactly like an evangelical Christian. Where did all the righteousness come from? Everything she believes is RIGHT and ABSOLUTELY TRUE and everyone disagreeing is EVIL? She's as bad for civil society and the political system as her opposites.

    And then she's surprised and hurt by negative comments AFTER she attacks people as racists and so forth???

    What long-term entertainer in the world would cry endlessly because someone didn't like a show, or what you do? Who cares? Plenty of people will both hate it, and love it.

    On top of that, why project your deep personal suffering onto everyone else so you can "sympathize" with their pain? The last thing the world needs is more pity. Project your joy instead.

    For someone who is clearly bright, she desperately needs to learn a few more shades of gray.
  • almost four years ago
    Joe
    @JOJOWHITE: Exclusively white would entail that there are no non-white teabaggers, which is demonstrably incorrect. And what the fuck, man? Greedy? What about the billionaires they are protesting against? Not hyperbole billionaires, I mean controlling interest in the Federal Reserve, owns all the banks billionaires! I know it feels good to have your little feelgood democrat party in power, but jesus tapdancing christ, at least think about what STOP THE BAILOUTS means before dumping your oversized brush in the stereotype bucket and painting dissenting citizens with such an ill-informed, backward smear.
    Mark, at least entertain your fans with a devils advocate and stop coddling your nostalgically political left leaning friends with the whole "we're so smart because we shop free-trade and bash on people who don't live in the same area of the country" codswallop.
  • almost four years ago
    Joe
    @Beelzebud: sorry buddy, but the tea parties started during the bush years when the bailouts were being rolled out. you must be a moron to actually believe the whole "teabaggers are racist" media talking point. this is why I can't stand janeane, she is just as ignorant as the people she hates and can't understand why a rogue government would put a black man in power just so gobemouche dullards like her would scream racist whenever people opposed his broken promises and wallstreet hand outs. I can't imagine that Immortal Technique, KRS 1, the Lost Children of Babylon and multiple other black musicians are racist.
    Mark, you are awesome. Janeane, pull you're head out of your ass and drop the left/right bullshit. Your dumbass party and its current crowd pleasing presidential puppet aren't exempt from being corrupt power hungry criminals.
  • almost four years ago
    Dylan
    of course spending suddenly becomes reckless when it goes to the wrong people also known as the public. spending trillions on wars of aggression, military contractors, corporate welfare, free lunch for the rich that's fine but just make sure none is spent on things people actually want like health care, education or a jobs program. And Clinton was awful unless you think removing the firewall between commercial and investment banking and blocking the regulation of derivatives turned out well. also the murder of hundreds of thousands of Iraqis with a genocidal sanctions regime wasn't exactly admirable.
  • almost four years ago
    Felipe
    Somebody tell Obama to hire Jeffrey Ross as a speechwriter or something, because Bud White is not entertained and that is an outrage that cannot stand.
  • almost four years ago
    Beelzebud
    I love Garofalo, but she suffers from the same thing that Lenny Bruce suffered from in his later performances. The line between "comedy" and "political lecture" becomes nonexistent. Not that Lenny Bruce is bad company to be in, but I think that's the thing I dislike about her sometimes. That being said, I agree with her on most issues, and she's right about the core group that started the "tea party" movement. They're a bunch of racists that don't give a damn about the economy. Where were the teabaggers during the Bush years? They didn't exist!
  • almost four years ago
    Bud Whiet
    That was about as enjoyable as pooping a porcupine. As a Clinton Democrat, I find that the tea party members make a good point about reckless spending. It's sad that someone as intelligent as Garafolo can't see that her self-loathing is projected onto her political opponents. She's become a crashing bore, like Obama.
  • almost four years ago
    Dylan
    Aspen is the worst audience in comedy. just a bunch of rich scumbags who just want to be flattered. Listen to the Odenkirk episode on this. for these rich assholes anything which doesn't serve their prejudices is stupid, awful because they are so self-centered and so without empathy. for them their personal enrichment is all. and they look down with contempt on anything which runs counter to that. fanatic totalitarian greed machines are not an ideal comedy audience.
  • almost four years ago
    rb
    Marc, I hope you and Janeane get a chance to do a show in Philly again. You were here this past year; and I was glad to get to see the both of you live back-to-back!
  • almost four years ago
    katie
    janeane for president.
  • almost four years ago
    Scott
    So nice to hear Janeane!

    Who thinks she is like Glen Beck?
    That a huge stretch...of dumbness.
  • almost four years ago
    JOJOWHITE
    Janeane G. was interesting as usual. The teabaggers who are giving her grief can suck on my teabag. A "populist" movement consisting of almost exclusively white, wealthy, greed mongers who would rather hold onto every penny they have than care for their brothers and sisters-peace!
  • almost four years ago
    Patrick
    F both Garofolo and Glenn Beck... They're both mentally unbalanced. You're a miserable F, Janeane!
  • almost four years ago
    Jimbo
    Expecting some vitriolic comments about Garofolo on here, but I think she is rad. Another good interview, as usual