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Jan 17, 2011 43

Writer/director (and podcaster) Kevin Smith has a smoke-filled chat with Marc in the garage. He talks with Marc about how he confronts failure, how he responds to the haters, and how he hopes to continue his career once he's finished making movies. This episode is sponsored by AdamandEve.com - click here for the special Valentine's Day WTF offer.

43 Comments
  • three and a half years ago
    Marc
    KEVIN SMITH WAS IN EAGLEROCK AND I DIDN'T KNOW???????...damn =\ Big fan of Kevin Smith and of his work. Look forward to seeing Red State.
  • almost four years ago
    Todd from Lancaster
    After giving some of the comments a glance as I scrolled down to post a comment for what I thought of the episode, I never realized the sheer level of dislike people have for Kevin Smith... I'm surprised.

    I've loved his stuff since 1996 when I first saw 'Clerks' on VHS in the Navy, and for the most part have liked all the stuff that he's done. When 'An Evening with Kevin Smith' came out I thought, 'Aw shit... Smith's probably trying to do too much.' But I was pleasantly surprised when it was awesome. Self-indulgent? Of course, but isn't most comedy about turning a negative into a positive, so you can live with it?

    Why else tells an audience that several girlfriends in your past said you had a little dick? Because it hurts, and sometimes spite motivates you to prove that you may have a little dick, but you're still funny enough to make a room full of strangers laugh. And while telling them the story won't make your dick any bigger, to me it proves you have big balls.

    And I can understand Smith getting pissed at his critics, since most 'Professional Film/Media Critics' are too talentless to put themselves out there enough to try doing something they actually created on their own. It's easy to stand off the the side and think, 'Look at this asshole trying to be interesting...' instead of enjoying that he actually might be interesting if you pulled the pole of pretense out of your ass.

    I would be tired of people that 15 years prior would let me tea-bag them because they loved my first three movies because they were 'Indie, Non-Conformist, Generation X' comedies, but it turns out that when your sense of humor changes along with your writing style as a film-maker you're no longer worth their time.

    I may not have loved everything that Kev has done, but I could at least appreciate when he was trying to do something different. People went after him with such vigor over movies that he really cared about and put a lot of sincerity and heart into... apparently, if there is a dearth of dick and fart jokes and vaguely homoerotic dialogue between two straight characters, people try to throw him down a flight of stairs.

    Fat jokes? Really? If you're going to insult someone, at least do them the courtesy of being a little original, like, say... saying that he has womanly, child-bearing hips.

    Kevin Smith is a big guy, but I've had to sit next to people that had their own gravitational pull and they didn't have to buy two tickets, and I know he isn't that big, so I chock it up to prejudice. They just got pissed at and smeared him for speaking up for himself, which many overweight people are too meek to do, and that's all it takes nowadays.

    And I thought that Kev and Marc would be great together on a podcast when I first found out that Marc had one going, and you know what? Turns out I was right!

    Although, I became a Marc fan in 1990, so I like his show more. Keep up the great work.
  • almost four years ago
    opinionated introvert
    I wish Kevin would've made more references to his third eye and his techniques in masking failure with a 'wake and bake'. Way to embrace the emotional crutch between vigorous ego-strokes, Smith. You might be rich, but you're an absolute bore...and not even getting high could improve the experience of listening to you.

    Marc, you rock as always - love the podcast!!
  • almost four years ago
    CrackedPepper
    Say what you want about his movies, but Kevin Smith knows how to tell a story.
  • almost four years ago
    LAinWLA
    Kevin Smith always came off to me as a pompous jerk.... as usual Marc humanized him..... ultimately KS seemed way more likable than I'd ever imagined he could be.
  • almost four years ago
    Marco P.
    First-time listener Marc, discovered ur podcast after u appeared on "CONAN" (who's promised to come do ur show right? Boy I can't wait to hear that one).

    I'm a big Kevin Smith fan, a lot (not all) of his movies but more importantly the Q/A sessions he did across colleges (An Evening with KS, etc. *loved* that).

    I gotta say I enjoyed this episode from the first minute to the last. Great flow to the conversation, I just love when KS dispenses with all the politically correct and says what he really thinks. Refreshing in this hollywood industry. Also agree with Tiffany. KS is just venting. Maybe the f***/buy your wife is a bit much, but he gets the point across that's what he WOULD do if he sank down to their level.
  • almost four years ago
    wade
    I really enjoyed that interview. Keep them coming
  • almost four years ago
    Crate&Trauma
    That was a funny interview, it's a shame the fanboys have to get all self-righteous on here.
  • almost four years ago
    Carl Snarly
    It is genuinely fascinating to hear two men who both admit to having easily wounded egos go over the countless little slights that consume their lives.
  • almost four years ago
    akabob
    An excellent show, Marc. You two SHOULD have gone on for five hours just to see what would happen.
  • almost four years ago
    ziggy
    >>Ziggy's two posted comments sound like planted Southwest loving

    I don't know SouthWest, I don't even live in your country. But, if being honest, I wouldn't want him next to me on a flight, for a few reasons.

    >>you are clearly harboring some jealousy there about the size of Kevin Smiths house.

    The one he kept bragging about? ;-)

    I just find him to be a mediocre talent with poor taste but who then obliviously promotes and revels in that and then is whiny and petty towards people who disagree. (See his ridiculous rants against critics who panned his recent films. You make crappy films, you'll get criticized. You're fat, you'll have embarrassing problems sometimes. Don't blame others.)

    Given how many tasteless and annoying things he said in one podcast, I thought that view was well confirmed.

    I'm sure he'd be a funny guy in the kitchen at a party. Wouldn't want to be stuck at dinner with him though.
  • almost four years ago
    johnathan C
    It's amazing how the muckraking journos Kevin Smith rails against have already picked up his thoughts on Mr. Willis and written ephemeral nuggets of turd about it All over the net. I know people need to make a living, but this is exactly what makes them such scuzzballs. What a fucking world.

    Incidentally, Smith went on Rotten Tomatoes a few years ago and engaged all the fulminating "nerdcocks" in a flame war that went on all night. I was one of those nerdcocks. He conducted himself with the decorum of an angry boar with flatulence. I loved him for that.
  • almost four years ago
    Felipe
    Hahaha... What a nice, creepy touch playing "Good-bye Horses" right after the Adam & Eve plug, Brendan!
  • almost four years ago
    Lee Cherolis
    First time listener, first time commenter, love the show! Someone mentioned it on Twitter and I hadn't listened to any podcasts regularly for a couple years but needed something to have on and lucked out that Kevin Smith was on the first one I listen to. I'm a big big Smith fan. Loved the interview, look forward to listening more. Now a fan of WTF. Take care, Marc!

    PS. Ziggy's two posted comments sound like planted Southwest loving. I'll happily admit our current society is too sensitive and doesn't want to offend anybody, but the policy is shit and Southwest is shit. I'm only 180lbs but I'm 6'1" so being a tall skinny guy, I take up just about as much room since I'm practically made of elbows and knees. Southwest's website says the armrests are the deciding factor, they don't list a certain weight limit. so it's about not bothering the passenger next to you. I guarantee I've bothered more passengers with elbowing their ribs and stabbing my knees through the seat in front of me than any other "passenger of size" as they call them. Why haven't I been kicked off a flight? When do I get my passenger of height label and my flight voucher?
  • almost four years ago
    danner
    I'm a little baffled by how it became so trendy to passionately despise Kevin Smith. The quality of his movies aside, he's always struck me as a reasonably down-to-earth guy who has a good sense of humor about himself. Sure, he's a loudmouth, but he's always struck me as a fairly good-natured guy most of the time. It just seems like there are more deserving targets out there. His "I could buy your wife" rant here was admittedly pretty ugly, but I've never heard him go off like that before, and I'm a regular listener of his podcast.
  • almost four years ago
    Solomon Raabe
    Kevin makes a very good point about "you don't want others to need to go through the same thing", but he needs to leave it at that, when he talks about "blocking 300 twitter followers", it makes it seem like he's angry about a personal slight (which is exactly what they want sometimes) I've learned this from my own medical situation= when you do a "public service" you need to speak objectively, otherwise they'll just latch onto the only defensive tactic they can use at that point, that it was just your experience.
  • almost four years ago
    Dustin
    You always have great music on the show and it usually fits with the guest (or at least sometimes I get how it fits). But I really loved the Alice in Chains intro to this show. I immediately flashed back to the opening of Clerks.
  • almost four years ago
    KIdblast
    Just got onto your show from a shout you got from Reddit. UK listener really loving your show, Marc, keep 'em coming.You have a great voice that's fun to listen to. You have a great style and you are very likeable.Particularly liked this show, was never a huge Smith fan but I'm warming to him, he speaks sense.That South West incident was shocking and rude. Great job, Marc.
  • almost four years ago
    jersey represent
    marc's a jersey boy! can i get a what what!
  • almost four years ago
    ziggy
    I forced myself to listen, just to hear Marc.

    The first part was OK, the 2nd part was unbearable, a non-stop Kevin Smith rant against people who dislike Kevin Smith (for good reason), but how he pretends he doesn't care what they think and has more money than them. Prefacing tacky claims about the size of your house does not make them any less tacky, especially when you work it in twice in one discussion.

    Good job trying to interrupt or even get out a complete sentence, Marc.

    "I ruined Seth Rogan"
    -well, that tells you enough about Kevin Smith's "taste" right there. Marc, how could you not comment on that???

    "They said I was fat and asked me to go on a flight with 2 tickets"
    -Marc, why not point out the truth that, well, he is enormously fat and it sounds like a good basic policy. The 2 people next to him were probably relieved they were helped out by SouthWest but of course said nothing in front of an angry fat man grilling them. Cheers to SouthWest, unless they sucked up to him afterward as Kevin pretends, but sounds like they simply explained a basic policy to him:

    ---------
    "Mr. Smith originally purchased two Southwest seats on a flight from Oakland to Burbank – as he's been known to do when traveling on Southwest. He decided to change his plans and board an earlier flight to Burbank, which technically means flying standby. As you may know, airlines are not able to clear standby passengers until all Customers are boarded. When the time came to board Mr. Smith, we had only a single seat available for him to occupy. Our pilots are responsible for the Safety and comfort of all Customers on the aircraft and therefore, made the determination that Mr. Smith needed more than one seat to complete his flight. Our Employees explained why the decision was made, accommodated Mr. Smith on a later flight, and issued him a $100 Southwest travel voucher for his inconvenience."
    ------------

    And, seriously, what sort of loser becomes an all-day stoner at 40?
  • almost four years ago
    Thom
    This interview (like most) was fantastic. Hopefully Kevin takes a page from your book to work on self esteem, since you seem to have that figured out much more than he does...
  • almost four years ago
    Roy Zornow
    Kevin Smith came across in a way that reminded me of Eric Roberts on Adam Corolla's podcast: defensively grandiose with a "forced-speech" style of communicating. Case in point "Dude I could fuck your wife. I could buy your wife."

    Marc I feel like you were not able to get into the hurt that must be underneath that kind of douche-ey comment. You were being an accomodating, almost obsequious "bro". To me you sounded like someone who didn't want to offend a potential Hollywood contact.
  • almost four years ago
    sam
    my favorite-was soon after KS claimed he had no anger, marc got him talking about SW airlines, ...ANGER! nice. great interview. can't say it changed my opinion about his movies. looking forward to Red State, on some level, though. am i the only one who couldn't give a shit about the pot? REALLY don't care.
  • almost four years ago
    Jesus "The Lawn Mower" Christ
    Nicely played Maron. I'd imagine interviewing Kevin Smith to be a difficult task as he rarely lets you get a word in edgewise.

    I'll admit that I grew up kind of idolizing Smith during the Clerks and Chasing Amy years, but I was also a teenager. As I matured and his work got worse, I, like many, lost all interest in him, his work, his egomaniac persona...

    I think this interview really cemented the fact that this guy is a windbag.

    All of his boasting ("I'm fat but I can fuck your wife" and "I live in a mansion," etc, etc.) drivel comes across as though Smith has some deep insecurities inside.

    Towards the end of the interview I even felt you were a little turned off by him.

    Whatever the case, interesting episode... keep em coming.
  • almost four years ago
    AD
    i've worked with Bruce Willis before. he's pretty unpleasant, and nobody thinks higher of themself than him. unless you're one of the sexy unknown actresses with a bit part in the film, you will see none of the cool charm you'd recognize in his good screen rolls. it's in there and it's easy for him to become that guy, he's just not that guy. the other night, when Gervais introduced him at the Golden Globes by naming half a dozen of Willis' worst films, and knowing Bruce takes himself so so seriously, i had to laugh.
  • almost four years ago
    parnelli
    Congrats Kevin, you have nailed the stoner crowd. Guess what, people who make velvet Elvis paintings make money. Doesn't mean they're good.
  • almost four years ago
    Dan Buskirk
    Nice to hear Smith waver between his newly-discovered zen state into his seething anger at critics. Great conversation....
  • almost four years ago
    steven
    Great show Marc! You and Kev were excellent together and played off of each other well.

    And whoever it was that complained about the way you end interviews with "are we good?" - fuck them! I love that you do that. It makes WTF YOUR show and not some other show. Don't change a thing based on what one douchebag on the internet says. Wasn't it the "are we good?" shows that made it into the NY Times?
  • almost four years ago
    Brad in Ohio
    Thumbs up, Maron.
  • almost four years ago
    Bill
    My friend Karen, who is a friend of Marc's, kept telling me about Marc and his podcast so last night I downloaded the Ipad app and listened to the Kevin Smith interview, my first Marc Moran podcast experience. What a revelation! There were so many times I just completely identified with what was being said and I can't recall ever having an experience hearing an interview that seemed so real and natural. I'm now a fan.
  • almost four years ago
    Joe Tily
    Great Episode. I have always enjoyed Kevin Smith and his films but he does talk about himself ad nauseam - it was great to hear Marc use his considerable interview skills to steer Kevin onto fresh topics.

    'Grade A' pod casting Maron - good on ya!
  • almost four years ago
    joshua p
    This podcast was like Clash of the Titans. Marc and Kevin should definitely sit down and do this again. Maybe on Kev's show next time?
  • almost four years ago
    Maria
    Great show. I love Kevin Smith.
    Please have him on again, soon.
    FU haters.
  • almost four years ago
    Brandon M
    Marc Maron. Kevin Smith. Two of my favorite podcasters, two of my favorite entertainers having on one the best conversations put on the internet. Could have listened for 5 hours of you guys talking.

    Great podcast Marc!
  • almost four years ago
    hehrer
    Loved the show. I now know what airline I won't ever use.
  • almost four years ago
    SNM
    can't seem to find this on itunes canada yet. it's cool-i just grabbed it here, but i find it odd that it does not seem to be up yet.
  • almost four years ago
    Tom
    Kevin Smith is just a down to earth guy. Great interview Marc.
  • almost four years ago
    Ashley
    This is great. Kevin and Marc manage to inform and entertain as always. Great conversation, and I hope Smith does it again soon.
  • almost four years ago
    Birdy
    I cant decide whats more abnoxious about Kevin Smith; His HORRIBLE stupid movies or those ridiculous "Shants" he wears that make him look like a fat little retard.
  • almost four years ago
    Dan W.
    Great episode. Thanks for having Kevin on. It's always a little surreal hearing my podcast worlds collide.
  • almost four years ago
    Duder
    Man, top five episode. Marc did a great job getting him to go deeper into the whole Cop Out debacle, I haven't heard him speak as frankly about it before. Same with the Southwest Airlines incident, I've heard Kevin talk about it before but never with so much intensity and still being hilarious through the whole episode.

    Awesome interview Marc!
  • almost four years ago
    ziggy
    Love Marc. HATE Kevin Smith. A blight on culture and a menace to airline passengers everywhere.
  • almost four years ago
    Scott
    Love Marc.
    Love Kevin Smith.

    Haters step aside.